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« Reply #6045 on: February 04, 2021, 11:30:51 PM »
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My grandparents were from Kentucky. my father was adopted...

She would ask you if you want a "cake of gum" instead of a stick of gum
My grandfather had a heavy accent. he would tell you to "shit the door behind you"
Check the water in the "Bat-tree"
Check the "Earl" in the motor.
Make sure you have "fill-um in the camry"

great examples! . . . . . some of this may be ethnic (family of birth) vs location? I had a great uncle who used to say "fill-um in the camry". I think he has Welch .... he used to refer to the Brits as "those bloody bastards ...". He married and had eight children with an English woman, my grandmother's sister! He was dearly loved in our English Quaker family.    ;D
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« Reply #6046 on: February 04, 2021, 11:49:11 PM »
He would call me "Dive-Ed" vs David..He was quiet around people. kept to himself. when he came over to the house he would sit outside with a bottle of "pop" and whittle anything laying around..mostly sticks never really making anything..both grandparents would say sack vs bag. fridge was a icebox..
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« Reply #6047 on: February 04, 2021, 11:59:51 PM »
When my grandmother (granny) got mad she would say "oh shavin soap" if she had to correct me for being bad she would say "sit up and flight right"

Up into the 70's she still had the round washing machine with the ringer at the top...
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« Reply #6048 on: February 05, 2021, 12:27:13 AM »
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If Cooper was a Native American or First Nations, it increases the chances that him disappearing could slide under the radar.

If (for the sake of argument) the hijacker had been a Native American, and if (for the sake of argument) he had been a resident of Oregon, the task of the FBI would have been exceedingly simple.

In the state of Oregon, the 1970 census counted 302 Native American males aged 40 to 44. If they followed the height and weight distribution of the American male population of that age group, about 90 of these men would have been in the height range 5'10" to 6'1", and about 30 (not necessarily part of the 90) would have been in the weight range 170-180 pounds.

The latter is less than the number that the FBI considered as suspects among the employees of the Boeing Airplane Company.

If we count only Native Americans with an urban place of residence, the 302 becomes 180.

If we add Washington state, or enlarge the age group, the target demographic becomes larger but it's still in the hundreds of persons.
Certainly, but you’re creating limits that we don’t know exist. If DBC was Native American, we can’t know what tribe he was or from what state. It’s even possible he was First Nations from Canada. We also don’t know if his age fell exactly within the 40-44 year range.

Lots of unknowns and assumptions. My point was only to point out that American Indians go unreported missing at a higher rate than other groups.
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« Reply #6049 on: February 05, 2021, 08:16:20 AM »
Irrespective of the hijacker's ethnicity, I think that when reflecting on his prior place of residence, it's useful to think about probabilities. In the field of criminology, there's an extensive literature (dating back to the 1800s) regarding the distance that the offender travels in order to commit the crime. I have the impression that broadly speaking, the probability of the place of residence decreases with the distance travelled. Agent Carr, if he ever visits this forum, might confirm this.

However, the "distance decay" function varies, depending on the type of crime, the age and the ethnicity of the criminal, and other factors. Again speaking very broadly: property crimes have higher journey distances than crimes against persons; conversely, older criminals travel shorter distances than younger ones.

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« Reply #6050 on: February 05, 2021, 01:42:07 PM »
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Irrespective of the hijacker's ethnicity, I think that when reflecting on his prior place of residence, it's useful to think about probabilities. In the field of criminology, there's an extensive literature (dating back to the 1800s) regarding the distance that the offender travels in order to commit the crime. I have the impression that broadly speaking, the probability of the place of residence decreases with the distance travelled. Agent Carr, if he ever visits this forum, might confirm this.

However, the "distance decay" function varies, depending on the type of crime, the age and the ethnicity of the criminal, and other factors. Again speaking very broadly: property crimes have higher journey distances than crimes against persons; conversely, older criminals travel shorter distances than younger ones.

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If you take Cooper's comments at face value, then Cooper was someone in a place, or in a position, to monitor flights and aircraft types, looking/waiting for an opportunity to hijack a 727. He may have been a frequent flier?

* In response to her query as to why he had chosen a Northwest airplane to hijack, he said ‘he had “a grudge but not against Northwest Airlines” adding ‘that the Northwest plane just happened to be in the right place at the right time’.
* It was during the period of furnishing these conditions the hijacker became extremely annoyed over the time it was taking to refuel the plane, as he had ordered.
* hijacker displayed an extensive knowledge of the aircraft and seemed specifically well informed in refueling procedures to the point that the crew had difficulty in convincing him that only 90% of the required fuel was on board at the time he was protesting the fact that refueling had not been completed.
* Schaffner said the man spoke of going to Mexico City, Phoenix, or San Francisco. She said that he did not appear to know exactly where he was destined for. 
* Hancock says that ‘Flo’ had told her that he hijacker wanted to go to Mexico and was very concerned throughout the flight about Sky Marshals being on board the aircraft.
* if they were going to Cuba airline personnel were advised to warn passengers against buying Cuban rum or cigars because US Customs would confiscate them when they returned to the United States.  (Mucklow says) the hijacker laughed and said ‘they weren’t going to Cuba, but she would like where they were going’. 
* identified Tacoma from the air.
* gave traveling time and mileage of Seattle from McChord AFB.
* said Minneapolis was 'nice country'. He asked her where she was from and she told him she was from Pennsylvania but was living in Minneapolis. He replied that ‘Minneapolis, Minnesota is very nice country’. 
* had Sky Chef matcbook in his pocket ...
* She asked him why he picked Northwest Airlines to hijack and he laughed and said “It’s not because I have a grudge against your airlines (plural), it’s just because I have a grudge”. He paused and said ‘that the flight suited his time, place, and plans.’
* asked ticket agent at Portland if NWO flight 305 was a 727 coming in from . . .
* “If that is a Sky Marshall I don’t want any more of that”, and Mucklow reassured the hijacker it wasn’t (a sky marshal) and further ‘that there are no sky marshals on this flight’.
* She told him that they had crew meals and maps, and requested permission to go get them. He replied “yes” and Mucklow went to get the items and returned taking a seat next to him.
* The man impressed her as being an executive type by his dress, special mannerisms, and consideration that he exhibited for her while he was on the aircraft.

It all fits together. He has traveled a lot ? He has selected a regional business flight 727 that has only been on the schedule since August 1971.  He has Sky Chef matches from some airport in his pocket...
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« Reply #6051 on: February 05, 2021, 05:09:51 PM »
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Irrespective of the hijacker's ethnicity, I think that when reflecting on his prior place of residence, it's useful to think about probabilities. In the field of criminology, there's an extensive literature (dating back to the 1800s) regarding the distance that the offender travels in order to commit the crime. I have the impression that broadly speaking, the probability of the place of residence decreases with the distance travelled. Agent Carr, if he ever visits this forum, might confirm this.

However, the "distance decay" function varies, depending on the type of crime, the age and the ethnicity of the criminal, and other factors. Again speaking very broadly: property crimes have higher journey distances than crimes against persons; conversely, older criminals travel shorter distances than younger ones.

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If you take Cooper's comments at face value, then Cooper was someone in a place, or in a position, to monitor flights and aircraft types, looking/waiting for an opportunity to hijack a 727. He may have been a frequent flier?

* In response to her query as to why he had chosen a Northwest airplane to hijack, he said ‘he had “a grudge but not against Northwest Airlines” adding ‘that the Northwest plane just happened to be in the right place at the right time’.
* It was during the period of furnishing these conditions the hijacker became extremely annoyed over the time it was taking to refuel the plane, as he had ordered.
* hijacker displayed an extensive knowledge of the aircraft and seemed specifically well informed in refueling procedures to the point that the crew had difficulty in convincing him that only 90% of the required fuel was on board at the time he was protesting the fact that refueling had not been completed.
* Schaffner said the man spoke of going to Mexico City, Phoenix, or San Francisco. She said that he did not appear to know exactly where he was destined for. 
* Hancock says that ‘Flo’ had told her that he hijacker wanted to go to Mexico and was very concerned throughout the flight about Sky Marshals being on board the aircraft.
* if they were going to Cuba airline personnel were advised to warn passengers against buying Cuban rum or cigars because US Customs would confiscate them when they returned to the United States.  (Mucklow says) the hijacker laughed and said ‘they weren’t going to Cuba, but she would like where they were going’. 
* identified Tacoma from the air.
* gave traveling time and mileage of Seattle from McChord AFB.
* said Minneapolis was 'nice country'. He asked her where she was from and she told him she was from Pennsylvania but was living in Minneapolis. He replied that ‘Minneapolis, Minnesota is very nice country’. 
* had Sky Chef matcbook in his pocket ...
* She asked him why he picked Northwest Airlines to hijack and he laughed and said “It’s not because I have a grudge against your airlines (plural), it’s just because I have a grudge”. He paused and said ‘that the flight suited his time, place, and plans.’
* asked ticket agent at Portland if NWO flight 305 was a 727 coming in from . . .
* “If that is a Sky Marshall I don’t want any more of that”, and Mucklow reassured the hijacker it wasn’t (a sky marshal) and further ‘that there are no sky marshals on this flight’.
* She told him that they had crew meals and maps, and requested permission to go get them. He replied “yes” and Mucklow went to get the items and returned taking a seat next to him.
* The man impressed her as being an executive type by his dress, special mannerisms, and consideration that he exhibited for her while he was on the aircraft.

It all fits together. He has traveled a lot ? He has selected a regional business flight 727 that has only been on the schedule since August 1971.  He has Sky Chef matches from some airport in his pocket...

Let me clarify something here.  In 1971, the airlines regularly published a thick book of all airline schedules in the USA including aircraft types and other such information.  These books were widely distributed and every library and travel agent had one in addition to all the airline people.  It would be extremely easy for Cooper to determine the flight that would best fit into his plans. 

Cooper was obviously looking for a 727 from the start.  NWA 305 just fit into his plans.  He confirmed that the inbound NWA 305 was a 727 by asking the ticked agent.  That confirmed to Cooper that NWA had not made an equipment substitution that particular day.

Cooper could have planned the entire hijacking in less than 24 hours and he would not need any specific aircraft information except that the 727 had an aft stairs that had been deployed in flight tests and that information was in the popular aviation literature from 1963 on.
 

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« Reply #6052 on: February 05, 2021, 06:38:26 PM »
I don't see any long strung out time frame to do this. McNally was a copycat but still didn't take long to get it going. he had a lot of time researching and finding the right airline to hijack. I think Sailshaw believed it took Cooper months to put together..
 

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« Reply #6053 on: February 05, 2021, 08:18:58 PM »
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* asked ticket agent at Portland if NWO flight 305 was a 727 coming in from . . .

Testimony of Dennis Lysne makes no reference to such a question:

"NR 002 PD plaintext
1:35 p.m. urgent 11/26/71 AZW
To:    Seattle (164-81)
From:    Portland (164-41) (p) pages 2
Unsub: highjacking of northwest orient airlines flight three zero five; November twenty four seventy one; 00: Seattle
Re Seattle tel to Portland, November twenty six seventy one.
[redacted] Northwest Orient Airlines, advised that at approximately two p.m. November twenty four seventy one: white male came up to him in regular rotation in long line of customers and said something to the effect, "Can I get on your flight to Seattle?" No nervousness or fidgeting noted. [redacted] asked if he wanted one way coach and he said "yes."
Paid with twenty dollar bill, probably with right hand, for twenty dollar fare. Source of money from pockets not noted. When asked name, person said “Cooper, Dan Cooper.” When asked if he had baggage, he said "no." Unnoticed whether or not he was carrying anything. After receiving instructions to flight area, person departed from ticket counter area: direction unnoticed. Never seen before nor since."
 

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« Reply #6054 on: February 05, 2021, 11:34:45 PM »
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* asked ticket agent at Portland if NWO flight 305 was a 727 coming in from . . .

Testimony of Dennis Lysne makes no reference to such a question:

"NR 002 PD plaintext
1:35 p.m. urgent 11/26/71 AZW
To:    Seattle (164-81)
From:    Portland (164-41) (p) pages 2
Unsub: highjacking of northwest orient airlines flight three zero five; November twenty four seventy one; 00: Seattle
Re Seattle tel to Portland, November twenty six seventy one.
[redacted] Northwest Orient Airlines, advised that at approximately two p.m. November twenty four seventy one: white male came up to him in regular rotation in long line of customers and said something to the effect, "Can I get on your flight to Seattle?" No nervousness or fidgeting noted. [redacted] asked if he wanted one way coach and he said "yes."
Paid with twenty dollar bill, probably with right hand, for twenty dollar fare. Source of money from pockets not noted. When asked name, person said “Cooper, Dan Cooper.” When asked if he had baggage, he said "no." Unnoticed whether or not he was carrying anything. After receiving instructions to flight area, person departed from ticket counter area: direction unnoticed. Never seen before nor since."

Ralph Himmelsbach's book, pages 12 and 13, give a different version of Cooper's interaction with Dennis Lysne.  It states, in quotation marks, that Cooper already had a $20 bill out when he approached the counter, that he did ask Lysne if it was a 727, and told Lysne that he would carry his briefcase and whatever he had in that famous paper bag rather than check them.
 

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« Reply #6055 on: February 06, 2021, 01:17:23 AM »
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Irrespective of the hijacker's ethnicity, I think that when reflecting on his prior place of residence, it's useful to think about probabilities. In the field of criminology, there's an extensive literature (dating back to the 1800s) regarding the distance that the offender travels in order to commit the crime. I have the impression that broadly speaking, the probability of the place of residence decreases with the distance travelled. Agent Carr, if he ever visits this forum, might confirm this.

However, the "distance decay" function varies, depending on the type of crime, the age and the ethnicity of the criminal, and other factors. Again speaking very broadly: property crimes have higher journey distances than crimes against persons; conversely, older criminals travel shorter distances than younger ones.

For those interested, there's a quite readable article, without a lot of jargon, at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

If you take Cooper's comments at face value, then Cooper was someone in a place, or in a position, to monitor flights and aircraft types, looking/waiting for an opportunity to hijack a 727. He may have been a frequent flier?

* In response to her query as to why he had chosen a Northwest airplane to hijack, he said ‘he had “a grudge but not against Northwest Airlines” adding ‘that the Northwest plane just happened to be in the right place at the right time’.
* It was during the period of furnishing these conditions the hijacker became extremely annoyed over the time it was taking to refuel the plane, as he had ordered.
* hijacker displayed an extensive knowledge of the aircraft and seemed specifically well informed in refueling procedures to the point that the crew had difficulty in convincing him that only 90% of the required fuel was on board at the time he was protesting the fact that refueling had not been completed.
* Schaffner said the man spoke of going to Mexico City, Phoenix, or San Francisco. She said that he did not appear to know exactly where he was destined for. 
* Hancock says that ‘Flo’ had told her that he hijacker wanted to go to Mexico and was very concerned throughout the flight about Sky Marshals being on board the aircraft.
* if they were going to Cuba airline personnel were advised to warn passengers against buying Cuban rum or cigars because US Customs would confiscate them when they returned to the United States.  (Mucklow says) the hijacker laughed and said ‘they weren’t going to Cuba, but she would like where they were going’. 
* identified Tacoma from the air.
* gave traveling time and mileage of Seattle from McChord AFB.
* said Minneapolis was 'nice country'. He asked her where she was from and she told him she was from Pennsylvania but was living in Minneapolis. He replied that ‘Minneapolis, Minnesota is very nice country’. 
* had Sky Chef matcbook in his pocket ...
* She asked him why he picked Northwest Airlines to hijack and he laughed and said “It’s not because I have a grudge against your airlines (plural), it’s just because I have a grudge”. He paused and said ‘that the flight suited his time, place, and plans.’
* asked ticket agent at Portland if NWO flight 305 was a 727 coming in from . . .
* “If that is a Sky Marshall I don’t want any more of that”, and Mucklow reassured the hijacker it wasn’t (a sky marshal) and further ‘that there are no sky marshals on this flight’.
* She told him that they had crew meals and maps, and requested permission to go get them. He replied “yes” and Mucklow went to get the items and returned taking a seat next to him.
* The man impressed her as being an executive type by his dress, special mannerisms, and consideration that he exhibited for her while he was on the aircraft.

It all fits together. He has traveled a lot ? He has selected a regional business flight 727 that has only been on the schedule since August 1971.  He has Sky Chef matches from some airport in his pocket...

Let me clarify something here.  In 1971, the airlines regularly published a thick book of all airline schedules in the USA including aircraft types and other such information.  These books were widely distributed and every library and travel agent had one in addition to all the airline people.  It would be extremely easy for Cooper to determine the flight that would best fit into his plans. 

Cooper was obviously looking for a 727 from the start.  NWA 305 just fit into his plans.  He confirmed that the inbound NWA 305 was a 727 by asking the ticked agent.  That confirmed to Cooper that NWA had not made an equipment substitution that particular day.

Cooper could have planned the entire hijacking in less than 24 hours and he would not need any specific aircraft information except that the 727 had an aft stairs that had been deployed in flight tests and that information was in the popular aviation literature from 1963 on.

The NWO Portland-Seattle late day shuttle flight was only added (came into existence) in AUGUST of 1971. 
 

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« Reply #6056 on: February 06, 2021, 01:27:39 PM »
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Irrespective of the hijacker's ethnicity, I think that when reflecting on his prior place of residence, it's useful to think about probabilities. In the field of criminology, there's an extensive literature (dating back to the 1800s) regarding the distance that the offender travels in order to commit the crime. I have the impression that broadly speaking, the probability of the place of residence decreases with the distance travelled. Agent Carr, if he ever visits this forum, might confirm this.

However, the "distance decay" function varies, depending on the type of crime, the age and the ethnicity of the criminal, and other factors. Again speaking very broadly: property crimes have higher journey distances than crimes against persons; conversely, older criminals travel shorter distances than younger ones.

For those interested, there's a quite readable article, without a lot of jargon, at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

If you take Cooper's comments at face value, then Cooper was someone in a place, or in a position, to monitor flights and aircraft types, looking/waiting for an opportunity to hijack a 727. He may have been a frequent flier?

* In response to her query as to why he had chosen a Northwest airplane to hijack, he said ‘he had “a grudge but not against Northwest Airlines” adding ‘that the Northwest plane just happened to be in the right place at the right time’.
* It was during the period of furnishing these conditions the hijacker became extremely annoyed over the time it was taking to refuel the plane, as he had ordered.
* hijacker displayed an extensive knowledge of the aircraft and seemed specifically well informed in refueling procedures to the point that the crew had difficulty in convincing him that only 90% of the required fuel was on board at the time he was protesting the fact that refueling had not been completed.
* Schaffner said the man spoke of going to Mexico City, Phoenix, or San Francisco. She said that he did not appear to know exactly where he was destined for. 
* Hancock says that ‘Flo’ had told her that he hijacker wanted to go to Mexico and was very concerned throughout the flight about Sky Marshals being on board the aircraft.
* if they were going to Cuba airline personnel were advised to warn passengers against buying Cuban rum or cigars because US Customs would confiscate them when they returned to the United States.  (Mucklow says) the hijacker laughed and said ‘they weren’t going to Cuba, but she would like where they were going’. 
* identified Tacoma from the air.
* gave traveling time and mileage of Seattle from McChord AFB.
* said Minneapolis was 'nice country'. He asked her where she was from and she told him she was from Pennsylvania but was living in Minneapolis. He replied that ‘Minneapolis, Minnesota is very nice country’. 
* had Sky Chef matcbook in his pocket ...
* She asked him why he picked Northwest Airlines to hijack and he laughed and said “It’s not because I have a grudge against your airlines (plural), it’s just because I have a grudge”. He paused and said ‘that the flight suited his time, place, and plans.’
* asked ticket agent at Portland if NWO flight 305 was a 727 coming in from . . .
* “If that is a Sky Marshall I don’t want any more of that”, and Mucklow reassured the hijacker it wasn’t (a sky marshal) and further ‘that there are no sky marshals on this flight’.
* She told him that they had crew meals and maps, and requested permission to go get them. He replied “yes” and Mucklow went to get the items and returned taking a seat next to him.
* The man impressed her as being an executive type by his dress, special mannerisms, and consideration that he exhibited for her while he was on the aircraft.

It all fits together. He has traveled a lot ? He has selected a regional business flight 727 that has only been on the schedule since August 1971.  He has Sky Chef matches from some airport in his pocket...

Let me clarify something here.  In 1971, the airlines regularly published a thick book of all airline schedules in the USA including aircraft types and other such information.  These books were widely distributed and every library and travel agent had one in addition to all the airline people.  It would be extremely easy for Cooper to determine the flight that would best fit into his plans. 

Cooper was obviously looking for a 727 from the start.  NWA 305 just fit into his plans.  He confirmed that the inbound NWA 305 was a 727 by asking the ticked agent.  That confirmed to Cooper that NWA had not made an equipment substitution that particular day.

Cooper could have planned the entire hijacking in less than 24 hours and he would not need any specific aircraft information except that the 727 had an aft stairs that had been deployed in flight tests and that information was in the popular aviation literature from 1963 on.

The NWO Portland-Seattle late day shuttle flight was only added (came into existence) in AUGUST of 1971.

So that flight was established three months before Cooper hijacked it.  It would certainly be listed in the airline publications at that point and easy for Cooper to know about it.  These airline publications were updated with new editions on a regular basis and I think it was about ever two months in 1971.
 

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« Reply #6057 on: February 06, 2021, 01:54:15 PM »
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...  Safe to say he was probably not from NYC, as that is a tough accent to hide, even years later.  Just talk to Bruce.  However, my dad is from Queens and he has no accent anymore.  It all depends....


Sorry to hear that. What happened to my paisano? Did he lose his voice? Can he still use his hands?

Bruce: I talked to my dad last night and asked about his accent.  He said he definitely had a NYC accent at one point.  He told me a story of when he was doing military training in Georgia and went into a bar to order a drink and someone heard him talk and said "This isn't New York."  He thinks he lost the accent in the military, overseas, speaking a few other languages, and then moving to a different part of the country.  I do have a fond memory of him showing me his apartment building in Queens though when he drove me to NYC for the first time.

The accent is an interesting angle for sure.  The age range for Cooper would more than likely put him in the military at some time in his life, which means he would have been exposed to many other accents/dialects, maybe foreign languages.  If he was using radios a lot, he would have learned to speak slower and more concise.  He would have picked up new slang, and maybe lost some of his slang.

If anyone has not heard Bruce speak, listen to Billy Joel give a talk.  They sound a lot alike.
 

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« Reply #6058 on: February 06, 2021, 04:14:51 PM »
Billy grew up in Levittown, LI and I in Garden City, about ten miles closer to NYC. Other paisanos that are contemporaries include Billy Crystal, 15 miles south in Long Beach; Eddie Murphy, five miles south in Roosevelt; Bill O'Reilly, in Westbury, which is next to Levittown (and we graduated Chaminade HS together, '67); and of course DT, Jamaica Heights, which is ten miles and five train stops west from my old home.
 

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« Reply #6059 on: February 07, 2021, 04:14:14 PM »
Someone should tell Tom Kaye that one of the people investigated by the FBI was an electrician (lineman) who worked for a chemical company just before the hijacking...

After the big game, obviously.
 
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