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georger · « **Reply #465 on:** December 11, 2014, 04:17:39 PM »

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Multiple quotes together seems to be the reason it continues to stay in the quote box....

I don't think the question is what diameter dynamite is vs road flares. If it was presented in a way to appear as a bomb, that's how people will see it. I'll assume the two rows probably had black tape holding them together, and depending on how he placed it in the case could of limited the writing on the flares by rotating them skewing the writing. a simple illusion.

People use fake guns to commit crimes all the time. cops often shoot people who have fake guns. the average person is not going to analyze what they seen in brief periods. Flo read the note that said he had a bomb. he opened the case, and she seen something that appeared to be a bomb. probably the first time she ever seen anything like that. so it should be pretty east to fool her IMO.

Here is a "prop bomb" made from 6 road flares. do you think they would notice any writing on it?

He explains how it was made.

I ended up using a bunch of wires and old computer parts taped and glued onto the sticks of dynamite to best replicate a stereotypical movie time bomb. To top it off I found a great mini alarm clock at Wal-mart that ended up working perfectly as the final piece. I remember laughing as I was constructing this fake bomb on my coffee table that the ATF or FBI were going to break down my door any second. When I was finished with this time bomb it looked kind of real, real enough I guess for a cartoon looking bomb.

The bomb shouldn't have taken much space. how was it presented, or what else was in the case that nobody has disclosed?

well ... if Blev is going to contend the sticks were actually rolls of dimes some 12=-year old say Kenny rolling in paper tubes in some shed (an act of pur genius Blevons sayz!) ........ well then diameter certainly DOES COUNT! It must have been quarters not dimes!

It could also have been Arm & Hammer Baking Soda!

Shutter · « **Reply #466 on:** December 11, 2014, 04:27:55 PM »

My reference was to road flares vs dynamite. I don't know if he was talking about coins, he said "something to do with coin collecting" I don't know what it could be, and I doubt a 12 year old would remember a 10 second or so period 40+ years ago. they never said much about the bomb on Decoded that I remember. how it triggered the memory is another mystery. sounds like adding more to the story as others have done. "Tune In Next Week"

nmiwrecks · « **Reply #467 on:** December 11, 2014, 04:50:39 PM »

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My reference was to road flares vs dynamite. I don't know if he was talking about coins, he said "something to do with coin collecting" I don't know what it could be, and I doubt a 12 year old would remember a 10 second or so period 40+ years ago. they never said much about the bomb on Decoded that I remember. how it triggered the memory is another mystery. sounds like adding more to the story as others have done. "Tune In Next Week"

Not to be weird (too late

), but when I think of Kenny going on a secret getaway with another man, visions of "Broke Back Mountain" come to mind. Maybe that's why they wanted to keep a lid on it? I don't know. When I hear of a guy preparing for this trip with a suitcase full of toys shaped like cylinders, I really don't know what to think. These comments are satire of course, but there does seem to be a lot of finding an arrow and painting a bulls-eye around it going on,

Shutter · « **Reply #468 on:** December 11, 2014, 04:53:46 PM »

Believe me, it's been brought up

those were new ones though

Might of been more explosive than we care to think about

Shutter · « **Reply #469 on:** December 12, 2014, 07:56:01 AM »

The Kenny Christiansen saga is getting closer to Marla Cooper's story each day. Marla claimed at age 8 she walked in on her uncles working on something she believed was for the crime. Now we have another child walking in on Kenny days before "creating the bomb".

As mentioned before, how do these people remember such events that last seconds from over 4 decades ago? In both cases they had moments to view things, and were quickly run off. they have nothing to cause this to recall. I'm sure we have all been ask to leave the room dozens of times while growing up, or walked in at the wrong times.

I was about 10, or 11 years old and witnesses my friends mother shoot and kill her husband. I don't even remember the name of my friend, or much about the event. I can recall the shooting to some extent, but not much detail. I remember the old brother kept the bullet that killed his father in a clear plastic bottle.

I witnessed another shooting while working in a bar in the early 90's. I don't remember the name of the guy who was shot and killed right in front of me. two of us attended to him and his wound. I haven't a clue who the other guy was, or what he was wearing.

Both of these shooting lasted seconds and yet I can't give vivid recall to these events. I have a very good memory, I'm rather use to these incidents so I don't believe I've been 'traumatized" by them. I testified in the latest shooting, but can't recall much about it. this was only about 20 some years ago. how is it these children remember events that have no purpose to recall what so ever?

Jo Weber claims to have witnessed her husband throwing Cooper cash into the Columbia river in late 1979? a simple incident of throwing out garbage, and yet she has a vivid recall? one of my duties growing up was throwing out garbage. I can't seem to recall any events to them. she gives vivid details of the entire event.

I just can't buy into all of this......

MarkBennett · « **Reply #470 on:** December 12, 2014, 12:19:49 PM »

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The Kenny Christiansen saga is getting closer to Marla Cooper's story each day. Marla claimed at age 8 she walked in on her uncles working on something she believed was for the crime. Now we have another child walking in on Kenny days before "creating the bomb".

As mentioned before, how do these people remember such events that last seconds from over 4 decades ago? In both cases they had moments to view things, and were quickly run off. they have nothing to cause this to recall. I'm sure we have all been ask to leave the room dozens of times while growing up, or walked in at the wrong times.

I was about 10, or 11 years old and witnesses my friends mother shoot and kill her husband. I don't even remember the name of my friend, or much about the event. I can recall the shooting to some extent, but not much detail. I remember the old brother kept the bullet that killed his father in a clear plastic bottle.

I witnessed another shooting while working in a bar in the early 90's. I don't remember the name of the guy who was shot and killed right in front of me. two of us attended to him and his wound. I haven't a clue who the other guy was, or what he was wearing.

Both of these shooting lasted seconds and yet I can't give vivid recall to these events. I have a very good memory, I'm rather use to these incidents so I don't believe I've been 'traumatized" by them. I testified in the latest shooting, but can't recall much about it. this was only about 20 some years ago. how is it these children remember events that have no purpose to recall what so ever?

Jo Weber claims to have witnessed her husband throwing Cooper cash into the Columbia river in late 1979? a simple incident of throwing out garbage, and yet she has a vivid recall? one of my duties growing up was throwing out garbage. I can't seem to recall any events to them. she gives vivid details of the entire event.

I just can't buy into all of this......

That's interesting, Shutter. And, the young girl's memory is about something that most people would have forgotten. Mostly likely to be a re-constructed memory.

I remember when John Lennon was shot, I was watching Monday Night Football and Howard Cosell came on and announced it. And, I think I can remember it almost word for word. They replayed it during the 30th anniversary and I was pretty close to dead on. But, a few things were not the way I remembered them -- and I was pretty confident in my memory. And, that was a big event. A minor event I would have far less confidence in. I think the girl's memory could be far off -- might have not been even in the correct time window.

Shutter · « **Reply #471 on:** December 12, 2014, 03:04:38 PM »

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That's interesting, Shutter. And, the young girl's memory is about something that most people would have forgotten.

It's an event that has no meaning, or reason to recall it. as kids we were always somewhere where we shouldn't have been, but I can't recall them from that long ago. we can easily recall things like JFK, 911, and Lennon, but recalling something 40 years back with zero reason to remember is astounding to say the least.

If something happened days, or weeks ago. I can see someone remembering something in detail. he believes in these people so strongly, and yet states if the DNA is negative he will accept that? this could only mean everything we have been trying to tell him.

I have reason to remember the incidents I spoke of earlier, but can't give you any details about them. I can recall bits and pieces, but that's about it. I haven't a clue what they were wearing, or where they were in the parking lot when the shot was fired. I remember the off duty cop who shot him. I can still see him holding the gun up waiting for the cops to show. I remember plugging the wound with my finger, and having his legs raised. I remember the first cop on the scene was a woman who was in shock shortly after showing up drawing her weapon. the police took me to the station, but I don't remember what they asked me. I know it was things about where I was, and what happened, but I can't recall any words.

this is much different, it's an event with no reason to recall, and yet they give details like having a photographic memory. it's like asking someone to remember what Jimmy had on his desk in 5th grade just before the bell rang for lunch? Dawn picked up on the tie clip. you seen how small it was when I showed it to you. I can't remember what kind of jewelry my mother had 40 years ago? her whole story isn't trustworthy at all given what we found out. it's not something that is considered flashy enough to remember decades later IMO.

I just can't buy into it.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #472 on:** December 12, 2014, 04:28:50 PM »

I remember Willis Reed walking onto the floor of Madison Square Garden for the 7th game of the NBA finals against the LA Lakers. It was utterly electrifying, as he had injured his leg in an earlier game and not expected to play.

I can remember it like it happened yesterday, but I saw the documentary on the Knicks championship teams yesterday and was surprised to learn that this occurred in the 1970 finals. I could have sworn that I saw the game while sitting in my dorm room at Hofstra, watching with my friend Mike.

But I didn't start Hofstra for two years, in 1971! I must have inverted my memory of the 1973 Knicks championship against the Lakers, even though I was gone from the dorms by September 1972!

Whew.

This MUST mean that Jo Weber has extraordinary abilities. Perhaps when your husband confesses to stealing an airplane and threatening to kill forty people, those little ole memory neurons shape-up pretty quick, and stay that way for year! We may be witnessing medical history play out right in front of us, and you mock, Jo?

Perhaps that is why she talks about herself in the third-person, like we do.

Or she is presenting a fascinating 17-year long history of a false memory phenomenon. That too, is extraordinary. She even had to sneak around her then-husband, Jim, to research Duane. Whew. Powerful forces are at work here.

Look at Cossey. I believe that he firmly believed that he owned the parachutes that DB Cooper used, and hung up on me when i started questioning him on the conflict with Norm Hayden. A mental overload,if you will. Universes in conflict.

And how about the 900 people who confessed? Is this madness, or something else?

The bigger question in the KC bomb development is why does this 50-yer old woman want to tell a story about her uncle in a barn with a bomb? With MArla, we know she is addicted to the limelight, but this story from a 12-year old kid forty years later may be something else.

Sadly, it seems that Bobby will be unable to help us on this angle, so we will have to do it ourselves.

Shutter · « **Reply #473 on:** December 12, 2014, 04:36:20 PM »

I thought for years that I moved from Ohio to Florida in 1976, but failed to remember that I was sitting in our family room watching the news about Elvis. we also went through the worst blizzard in Ohio in 77. we moved down here, and it snowed in Miami soon after we arrived

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #474 on:** December 12, 2014, 04:46:52 PM »

That seems to be the human condition as I know it - we re-order our memories to suit us!

Clearly, you like snow. But you stayed in Florida? You may have a serious mental issue, Shutter. I'd check it out, as soon as you resolve the mental issues in your local police department and the witnesses who saw you and your truck jump the space-time continuum and crash into that poor SOB who is suing you.

It's not just Jo.

Shutter · « **Reply #475 on:** December 12, 2014, 04:58:23 PM »

Funny, the guy wants $30,000 for the 10 mph accident I had nothing to do with. my lawyer just found out the cops only showed him my photo! they are supposed to use 5 other photo's, and they have to pick you out of the lineup. two different trucks, and old paper tag etc. it's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to save you from things like this. it's ridiculous beyond belief.

Snow? I miss it to some extent. I never had to drive in it though. I was a little shutter lost in the drift

Robert99 · « **Reply #476 on:** December 12, 2014, 05:12:35 PM »

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Funny, the guy wants $30,000 for the 10 mph accident I had nothing to do with. my lawyer just found out the cops only showed him my photo! they are supposed to use 5 other photo's, and they have to pick you out of the lineup. two different trucks, and old paper tag etc. it's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to save you from things like this. it's ridiculous beyond belief.

Snow? I miss it to some extent. I never had to drive in it though. I was a little shutter lost in the drift

As I remember it, the winter of 1976/1977 was a record setting cold one in Southwest Ohio where I lived at that time. Then the winter of 1977/1978 was a record setting one for snowfall amounts. If Amazon is looking in, perhaps she can back up my memory on those matters.

Bruce A. Smith · « **Reply #477 on:** December 12, 2014, 05:24:16 PM »

Y'know, these emoticons are fun! Unlike your legal proceedings.

MarkBennett · « **Reply #478 on:** December 12, 2014, 05:29:22 PM »

I go back to another analogy....The DB Cooper case is like solving a jigsaw puzzle. Most of us don't know what the assembled puzzle looks like, so we keep fitting little pieces together trying to figure out what it will look like at the end.

Others, like Jo and Robert, think they have the puzzle box with the picture on the front. They are sure they know what the completed puzzle will look like. Therefore, any pieces that they find have to fit the final picture as they believe it to be.

You can't reason with them, give them facts or point out details that don't match their preconceived notion. The know in their heart or hearts that their suspect is DB Cooper so all of the pieces just have to fit. How is it possible they do no? So someone comes up with a 50 year old memory of a minor thing, if it fits it must be true. If it doesn't it must be false.

ParrotheadVol just did a long and reasoned post trying to convince Robert the flaws in his reason. But, it's just a waste of his time. You can never convince a true believer.

georger · « **Reply #479 on:** December 12, 2014, 05:54:43 PM »

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The Kenny Christiansen saga is getting closer to Marla Cooper's story each day. Marla claimed at age 8 she walked in on her uncles working on something she believed was for the crime. Now we have another child walking in on Kenny days before "creating the bomb".

As mentioned before, how do these people remember such events that last seconds from over 4 decades ago? In both cases they had moments to view things, and were quickly run off. they have nothing to cause this to recall. I'm sure we have all been ask to leave the room dozens of times while growing up, or walked in at the wrong times.

I was about 10, or 11 years old and witnesses my friends mother shoot and kill her husband. I don't even remember the name of my friend, or much about the event. I can recall the shooting to some extent, but not much detail. I remember the old brother kept the bullet that killed his father in a clear plastic bottle.

I witnessed another shooting while working in a bar in the early 90's. I don't remember the name of the guy who was shot and killed right in front of me. two of us attended to him and his wound. I haven't a clue who the other guy was, or what he was wearing.

Both of these shooting lasted seconds and yet I can't give vivid recall to these events. I have a very good memory, I'm rather use to these incidents so I don't believe I've been 'traumatized" by them. I testified in the latest shooting, but can't recall much about it. this was only about 20 some years ago. how is it these children remember events that have no purpose to recall what so ever?

Jo Weber claims to have witnessed her husband throwing Cooper cash into the Columbia river in late 1979? a simple incident of throwing out garbage, and yet she has a vivid recall? one of my duties growing up was throwing out garbage. I can't seem to recall any events to them. she gives vivid details of the entire event.

I just can't buy into all of this......

But Blevins has spent years proving that Marla is a liar and a fabricator, and a "hate monger" too. It follows that people who do society a favor like Blevins has done are nice guys, truth tellers, only interested in the truth, geniuses at investigation, and never make anything up even though they have claimed for years on all oceans to be 'famous science fiction' writers of note.

If it walks like a Saint, talks like a Saint, stinks like a Saint, ... it must be a Saint!

The formula is pure genius. Only a genius could have thought that up, while scrubbing floors.

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