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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3690 on: October 25, 2018, 07:22:46 PM »
Can you give some explicit dates? Your story sounds fishy to me without dates.
Your story of "ten years of research" sounds a little crazy.

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no I'm talking about when the internet story started, not the internal FBI story.

When did you find out the FBI were tipped so early? Did you have access to FBI files at some point? Those files weren't available in 2008, correct?

I only became aware of Sheridan being tipped to the FBI near the end of my research. This is because I studied the evidence and created a suspect profile first, then cross referenced my profile with the FBI files. I immediately became interested in the file that included Sheridan's resume', DoD filing and supplemental. However, Sheridan's name was redacted. I discovered his name by contacting and procuring graduation lists from Santa Rosa Junior College and Mizzou. Once I had his name it was easy to drill down.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3691 on: October 25, 2018, 07:24:48 PM »
Are you saying you saw Sheridan's name in the FBI FOIA...his resume in that file that was released recently? That one didn't have his name.

But that FBI FOIA was only released recently...not 10 years ago.

His name was in the Boeing news article, but not on the resume/boeing application

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Can you give some explicit dates? Your story sounds fishy to me without dates.
Your story of "ten years of research" sounds a little crazy.

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no I'm talking about when the internet story started, not the internal FBI story.

When did you find out the FBI were tipped so early? Did you have access to FBI files at some point? Those files weren't available in 2008, correct?

I only became aware of Sheridan being tipped to the FBI near the end of my research. This is because I studied the evidence and created a suspect profile first, then cross referenced my profile with the FBI files. I immediately became interested in the file that included Sheridan's resume', DoD filing and supplemental. However, Sheridan's name was redacted. I discovered his name by contacting and procuring graduation lists from Santa Rosa Junior College and Mizzou. Once I had his name it was easy to drill down.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3692 on: October 25, 2018, 07:25:00 PM »
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Can you give some explicit dates? Your story sounds fishy to me without dates.
Your story of "ten years of research" sounds a little crazy.

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no I'm talking about when the internet story started, not the internal FBI story.

When did you find out the FBI were tipped so early? Did you have access to FBI files at some point? Those files weren't available in 2008, correct?

I only became aware of Sheridan being tipped to the FBI near the end of my research. This is because I studied the evidence and created a suspect profile first, then cross referenced my profile with the FBI files. I immediately became interested in the file that included Sheridan's resume', DoD filing and supplemental. However, Sheridan's name was redacted. I discovered his name by contacting and procuring graduation lists from Santa Rosa Junior College and Mizzou. Once I had his name it was easy to drill down.

I started my research 10 years ago. I identified Sheridan Peterson in 2018.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3693 on: October 25, 2018, 07:29:14 PM »
Again, I did not enter this challenge with a suspect in mind. I developed the evidence and a suspect profile first. I then let it lead me to someone in the FBI files. That someone was Sheridan.

I have never had a horse in this race. Rather, I have only wanted to try to solve the mystery.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3694 on: October 25, 2018, 07:32:22 PM »
So you start looking at things 10 years ago.
You find no suspects.
You look at new FBI FOIA in 2018 and decide Sheridan matches what you're looking for?

And you write a report saying you've been researching for 10 years?

No wonder you don't have anything new on Sheridan
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3695 on: October 25, 2018, 07:38:08 PM »
In the Cooper Vortex, all your words about "developing a profile" are just called "your bias"

everyone has one. Nothing makes your bias superior.

Are you trained in criminal investigation or psychology or something? What is your profile based on? Your gut instinct or what?
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3696 on: October 25, 2018, 07:42:15 PM »
EU
if you knew of the exact location and number of pages of info in the FBI FOIA, and the particular file, before I posted them, why didn't you post the details and provide location?

I mean, it's just data. Why hold your info so close to your chest and pretend you have more than you really do?
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3697 on: October 25, 2018, 08:28:24 PM »
Snow, Snow, Snow,

You're really something.

I bring nothing new to the table so you say?

1) How about the DNA info?

2) How about the daisy-chain info (even Fryar thinks this needs to be explained)?

3) How about the cufflink info?

This is just part of it. The rest is all put together in a neat 128-page report with my name on it.

It doesn't appear that you have read the report because you have asked several questions that I specifically address in the report. If you haven't read my report then how do you know what I've brought to the table?

My suspect profile was derived based upon my experience reading people...which arguably has made me a fair amount of money over the years. Would you like more specifics in that area? Ask 377. I'm usually correct.

Let me give you an example of reading people. I'll read you:

You are engaging in a territorial pissing match. You are trying to reclaim the Sheridan Peterson is DBC mantle. Kids nowadays would call that being "butthurt."

It bugs the shit out of you that you dropped Sheridan as a suspect--probably because of the DNA story that you swallowed but I later disproved--and someone else came along and discovered Sheridan too. But instead of just dropping him, I investigated and questioned  and ultimately crafted a strong circumstantial case pointing to Sheridan.

You can't claim squat. Great, you uncovered other people's writings but to what end? Did you put it together to make a case either for or against Sheridan as DBC? Did you challenge anything that others said or wrote that contributed in any meaningful way to the Sheridan Peterson discussion?

My report and case, which relies upon the writings and words of others going back to 1971, as well as, my own investigation and research stands as my testimony. I point to Sheridan Peterson. I could care less whether you find it compelling or not. I stand by my work.

A friendly piece of advice: Stop being an ass. It's unnecessary and tiring.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3698 on: October 25, 2018, 09:56:01 PM »
Fryar knows nothing about packed reserves.
Her opinion means nothing.

You don't seem to know anything about packed training reserves. You rely on Sheridan's statement about what he did in the early '60s and assumes it applies to '71 long after Sheridan left

That's dumb.

You don't seem to know how dumb your statements are? So you can't fix them.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3699 on: October 25, 2018, 09:56:59 PM »
I will always be an ass. I don't care if you're tired. This is how it is.
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3700 on: October 25, 2018, 11:20:54 PM »
So if EU is so good at reading me,
What's the next thing I'm going to do?

Right, it doesn't matter.

But give it a try. What's your best guess?
Is the expectation I spend like a year doing something about this?
What do your tea leaves say?
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3701 on: October 26, 2018, 07:25:11 AM »
I've read through the latest posts on this page. the next time I see "liar or Troll" posted on any of these threads without actual data or reasoning for these terms to be used, that member will no longer be posting here.

Fly & Geroger, it appears both of you guys will never see eye to eye so I suggest you both move on and take a break from the insults that are coming from both sides.

Important people are on this forum and others are viewing the forum from the outside. I doubt they want to constantly read all the drama taking place. they are looking for information about DB Cooper and that's what I want provided here!

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3702 on: October 26, 2018, 11:18:05 AM »
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I've read through the latest posts on this page. the next time I see "liar or Troll" posted on any of these threads without actual data or reasoning for these terms to be used, that member will no longer be posting here.

Fly & Geroger, it appears both of you guys will never see eye to eye so I suggest you both move on and take a break from the insults that are coming from both sides.

Important people are on this forum and others are viewing the forum from the outside. I doubt they want to constantly read all the drama taking place. they are looking for information about DB Cooper and that's what I want provided here!

Shutter

I have tried to ignore and avoid G. He continues the personal attacks and the constant lies to discredit me..

I WILL NOT sit here and take that shit from that juvenile troll or from anyone. I have never initiated... G. initiates every time, he can't help it.

It is beyond disagreements, he is a sociopath.

G. is disrespecting you and the forum. HE is the problem. It won't end until you deal with him and if I leave he will find somebody else to harass.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3703 on: October 26, 2018, 01:14:12 PM »
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I've read through the latest posts on this page. the next time I see "liar or Troll" posted on any of these threads without actual data or reasoning for these terms to be used, that member will no longer be posting here.

Fly & Geroger, it appears both of you guys will never see eye to eye so I suggest you both move on and take a break from the insults that are coming from both sides.

Important people are on this forum and others are viewing the forum from the outside. I doubt they want to constantly read all the drama taking place. they are looking for information about DB Cooper and that's what I want provided here!

Shutter

I have tried to ignore and avoid G. He continues the personal attacks and the constant lies to discredit me..

I WILL NOT sit here and take that shit from that juvenile troll or from anyone. I have never initiated... G. initiates every time, he can't help it.

It is beyond disagreements, he is a sociopath.

G. is disrespecting you and the forum. HE is the problem. It won't end until you deal with him and if I leave he will find somebody else to harass.

Really?  He (Bulljax) said the same thing about Jo Weber in 2013 when he told Quade to kick her off of Dropzone.

His dance hasn't changed in five years.

He keeps using the word sociopath!  :rofl:    He obviously has been on a campaign from the start going back to his performance in 2013. He has a personal agenda. He never presents evidence of anything - he feels his claims need no proof. That's the origin of his use of the word "sociopath".

He is unable or unwilling to accept anyone asking for "evidence". He claims anyone doing that is a "sociopath" and attacking him personally.

There is nothing I or anyone else can do about a person like that! 
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3704 on: October 26, 2018, 01:25:33 PM »
Yttrium.
I'm confused.
Was this pure elemental yttrium.
Or more likely: yttrium oxide,
Or yttrium in a mineral like manzanite.

I'm wondering if we have bad data from Kaye

The info is presented with no control.

Yttium is actually pretty common in the earth's crust, like copper or zinc. More prevalent in moon rocks, interestingly.

Need to know if really pure yttrium. That would seem interesting.

Also,
There were 3 donors for dna..so contamination.

Why do people think there weren't multiple donors for the detected metals?

Be nice to find old tie from 60s and see what's on it for comparison
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