Poll

Do you believe Cooper lived or died. the option are below to cast a vote...

0% Cooper lived
6 (9.5%)
25% Cooper lived
4 (6.3%)
35% Cooper lived.
2 (3.2%)
50% Cooper lived
14 (22.2%)
75% Cooper lived
14 (22.2%)
100 Cooper lived
23 (36.5%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Author Topic: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case  (Read 1562602 times)

Offline snowmman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1877
  • Thanked: 176 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3675 on: October 25, 2018, 04:15:23 PM »
Here are my favorites. Pictures of the Bubbleator.
One photo of when Jay North visited, you can see the costume the Bubbleator operator had to wear
I love picturing Sheridan operating the Bubbleator.
I even have all the mp3s of the album that had the music they played. It was early electronic music.
Very eerie sounding.
 

Offline georger

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3182
  • Thanked: 467 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3676 on: October 25, 2018, 04:18:14 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
hmm
I guess what you're looking for is Mexican-American with no discernible accent.

I don't think Tina or Schaffner said Mexican-American?

Consensus was white, latin...

Since when is one person, Schafner,  a consensus? Oh! SINCE YOU SAID SO! I GIT IT! I WILL OBEY!  :rofl:

Eins zwei drei vier Ja, ich werde gehorchen.  O0

Only in your loose relationship with reality.

and your EVIDENCE is ! ??   O0 O0 O0 O0 O0

Folks - NOTIFICATION - Flyjack/Bulljax was released from ever showing any evidence for anything he says here. He is our special guest and is not required to show evidence. Worship him.  >:D

Back to name calling,,,  missed your meds again.. little fucking child.

The evidence is in the FBI files, do your own homework.

You have spent a decade and have nothing but a fragile ego, no suspect, no theory, no diatoms, NOTHING. It must be just intolerable that others might solve this...  Your increasing irrelevance can't be overcome by juvenile trolling.

Time to piss or get of the pot, G. or drift further into irrelevance.

complaint filed - which Shutter will ignore! But a complaint filed nontheless.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

sure, postmodern snowflake..

more name calling ...

Glad ur following this forum 24/7 .... when do you sleep?     Its Blevonian.   If you spent the same time posting evidence of your claims .... but alas .... Blevins didnt either!  >:D
« Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 04:22:35 PM by georger »
 

Offline snowmman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1877
  • Thanked: 176 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3677 on: October 25, 2018, 04:22:52 PM »
here's page 24 of the Wagner High School yearbook 1966, at Clark Air Base
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

shows Sheridan

Says he was advisor for the "Falcon Crier". I suspect that was the school paper, and the reason behind the other page with him at a desk with students.

Note it says B.A. Univ. of Mo. [Missouri] which aligns with the info in his Boeing application/records from the FBI FOIA
 

Offline snowmman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1877
  • Thanked: 176 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3678 on: October 25, 2018, 04:26:24 PM »
Found a "new to me" picture of Sheridan in the yearbook, in the group of Falcon Crier photos
page 84 top left
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
 

Offline georger

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3182
  • Thanked: 467 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3679 on: October 25, 2018, 04:28:36 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
hmm
I guess what you're looking for is Mexican-American with no discernible accent.

I don't think Tina or Schaffner said Mexican-American?

Consensus was white, latin...

Since when is one person, Schafner,  a consensus? Oh! SINCE YOU SAID SO! I GIT IT! I WILL OBEY!  :rofl:

Eins zwei drei vier Ja, ich werde gehorchen.  O0

Only in your loose relationship with reality.

and your EVIDENCE is ! ??   O0 O0 O0 O0 O0

Folks - NOTIFICATION - Flyjack/Bulljax was released from ever showing any evidence for anything he says here. He is our special guest and is not required to show evidence. Worship him.  >:D

Back to name calling,,,  missed your meds again.. little fucking child.

The evidence is in the FBI files, do your own homework.

You have spent a decade and have nothing but a fragile ego, no suspect, no theory, no diatoms, NOTHING. It must be just intolerable that others might solve this...  Your increasing irrelevance can't be overcome by juvenile trolling.

Time to piss or get of the pot, G. or drift further into irrelevance.

complaint filed - which Shutter will ignore! But a complaint filed nontheless.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

sure, postmodern snowflake..

more name calling ...

Glad ur following this forum 24/7 .... when do you sleep?     Its Blevonian.   If you spent the same time posting evidence of your claims .... but alas .... Blevins didnt either!  >:D

here is another.. TROLL

Would you liek the Cooper Hijacking changed to a "Flyjacking" ... in your honor?

The DBN Cooper Flyjacking. N for Neandertal. 

I keep feeding you leads ... like Pavlov's dog!  You respond every time!  :rofl:  Do you think there were any Neanderthal genes in Cooper's dna? I'm sure you have an expert opinion.

What was Cooper's favorite grease?  ;)

ps: Damn I almost forgot. Tell us again about your suspect dating Tina in highschool! Lets see he was the janitor - she was a student. What maintenance closet did they meet in?  Juicy stuff!   

Do you have an energy drink can collection? Tell us about it..
« Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 04:37:39 PM by georger »
 

Offline snowmman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1877
  • Thanked: 176 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3680 on: October 25, 2018, 04:35:10 PM »
Here's the page that confirms Sheridan Peterson graduated from MSO 1953 (Missoula) as a smokejumper. From the National Smokejumper Association, page 53
 

Offline snowmman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1877
  • Thanked: 176 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3681 on: October 25, 2018, 05:18:02 PM »
Here are the last 8 pages of "The Idiot's Frightful Laughter" by Sheridan Peterson, 2007

attached

It's so meta. Sheridan is writing in the book, about writing a book in Nepal
The start of the chapter is a bad job performance review Vince Grecco got for his job in Vietnam.

So they're planning to go to Nepal (I wonder if Victoria is a stand-in for his wife)
Olson is going to Nepal with Victoria, Vince Grecco is questioning. Both are schizophrenic Sheridan.

Olson says how Vince is his alter ego.

After this discussion, the jump chapter with Vince happens.

So it was Vince Grecco that did the jump and Grant Olson goes to Nepal with Victoria.  All after the bad job evaluation report from Gregory Kalick, FSR-3 Dep Province Senior Advisor
« Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 05:22:30 PM by snowmman »
 

Offline snowmman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1877
  • Thanked: 176 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3682 on: October 25, 2018, 06:54:02 PM »
Its 10 years since 2008, and I'm musing about things I did that basically led to Sheridan becoming a standard fixture in Cooper stories now.

In 2008, you got to visualize, Sheridan was not part of any storytelling. He had published the Smokejumper article in 2007, but no one really talked it up. I wasn't aware of it. Other smokejumpers wrote articles talking about being suspected of being DB Cooper. So it was sort of no big thing.

Bruce did his interviews, which added good info. 377 and I discussed things on DZ.com. That attracted Sailshaw, which was the first real life person that could validate some of the crazy-seeming stories around Sheridan.

377 convinces Sheridan to post on DZ.com a little. 377 meets and chats up Sheridan in real life. So does Bruce.

Then someone picked up the story from DZ.com for Parachutist? and added Sheridan as a credible suspect.

Sheridan himself kept the game going whenever he got interviewed...He played the perfect suspect

Then the History Channel video/show built on that.

And then EU comes along with his opinions and interviews.

I can't help but wonder what would have happened if we hadn't thrown out Sheridan's name on DZ.com

I remember being nervous at the time, since he was alive, and possibly just a normal citizen. It seemed unfair to throw him into the Vortex.

But now, it just seems natural that Sheridan is part of the Vortex. Back in 2008, it wasn't like that...for all intents and purposes, he was just a guy with a interesting life, that wrote this book that appeared and disappeared, all while he was ranting it couldn't get published, and it was a documentary (fictionalized) about the Vietnam War. And it had crazy chapters that had nothing to do with the war, seemingly.

And with the recent FOIA from FBI, we see someone tipped FBI to Sheridan very early on, and then they did relatively extensive background checking of him (Boeing application/resume/employment record)

While we knew of the Boeing airdrop tests from the transcripts, there were no pictures and no FBI memos confirming back then. And Ckret hardly told us anything. It's like he loved keeping secrets.

It's been a long, strange trip.

Maybe Sheridan is a far better writer than I give him credit for.

I really wonder what would have happened if I didn't decide it was worth $25 to see what his book on Lulu was about.
And, was it really true that it was uploaded by Sheridan accidently?

If those two incidents hadn't occurred, would Sheridan being doing something different today? For instance would he have released his book?

The recent FBI memos also remove some of the concern about blue eyes in my mind.
And in 2008, there wasn't the Kaye information about the tie. I'm not sure what that all means but:

What a long strange trip it's been.

Hey did you know Vietnam is I think the world leader in rare earth mineral deposits? I think biggest exporter now too in dollars. Bigger than China? Funny.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 07:08:44 PM by snowmman »
 

FLYJACK

  • Guest
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3683 on: October 25, 2018, 07:00:21 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Its 10 years since 2008, and I'm musing about things I did that basically led to Sheridan becoming a standard fixture in Cooper stories now.

In 2008, you got to visualize, Sheridan was not part of any storytelling. He had published the Smokejumper article in 2007, but no one really talked it up. I wasn't aware of it. Other smokejumpers wrote articles talking about being suspected of being DB Cooper. So it was sort of no big thing.

Bruce did his interviews, which added good info. 377 and I discussed things on DZ.com. That attracted Sailshaw, which was the first real life person that could validate some of the crazy-seeming stories around Sheridan.

377 convinces Sheridan to post on DZ.com a little. 377 meets and chats up Sheridan in real life. So does Bruce.

Then someone picked up the story from DZ.com for Parachutist? and added Sheridan as a credible suspect.

Sheridan himself kept the game going whenever he got interviewed...He played the perfect suspect

Then the History Channel video/show built on that.

And then EU comes along with his opinions and interviews.

I can't help but wonder what would have happened if we hadn't thrown out Sheridan's name on DZ.com

I remember being nervous at the time, since he was alive, and possibly just a normal citizen. It seemed unfair to throw him into the Vortex.

But now, it just seems natural that Sheridan is part of the Vortex. Back in 2008, it wasn't like that...for all intents and purposes, he was just a guy with a interesting life, that wrote this book that appeared and disappeared, all while he was ranting it couldn't get published, and it was a documentary (fictionalized) about the Vietnam War. And it had crazy chapters that had nothing to do with the war, seemingly.

It's been a long, strange trip.

Maybe Sheridan is a far better writer than I give him credit for.

Sheridan is a real interesting character and subplot.. not Cooper though.. you can enter the Vortex but you can never leave.. and it is going to get even stranger but nobody knows it yet.
 

Offline EU

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1759
  • Thanked: 322 times
    • ERIC ULIS: From the History Channel
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3684 on: October 25, 2018, 07:08:37 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Its 10 years since 2008, and I'm musing about things I did that basically led to Sheridan becoming a standard fixture in Cooper stories now.

In 2008, you got to visualize, Sheridan was not part of any storytelling. He had published the Smokejumper article in 2007, but no one really talked it up. I wasn't aware of it. Other smokejumpers wrote articles talking about being suspected of being DB Cooper. So it was sort of no big thing.

Bruce did his interviews, which added good info. 377 and I discussed things on DZ.com. That attracted Sailshaw, which was the first real life person that could validate some of the crazy-seeming stories around Sheridan.

377 convinces Sheridan to post on DZ.com a little. 377 meets and chats up Sheridan in real life. So does Bruce.

Then someone picked up the story from DZ.com for Parachutist? and added Sheridan as a credible suspect.

Sheridan himself kept the game going whenever he got interviewed...He played the perfect suspect

Then the History Channel video/show built on that.

And then EU comes along with his opinions and interviews.

I can't help but wonder what would have happened if we hadn't thrown out Sheridan's name on DZ.com

I remember being nervous at the time, since he was alive, and possibly just a normal citizen. It seemed unfair to throw him into the Vortex.

But now, it just seems natural that Sheridan is part of the Vortex. Back in 2008, it wasn't like that...for all intents and purposes, he was just a guy with a interesting life, that wrote this book that appeared and disappeared, all while he was ranting it couldn't get published, and it was a documentary (fictionalized) about the Vietnam War. And it had crazy chapters that had nothing to do with the war, seemingly.

It's been a long, strange trip.

Maybe Sheridan is a far better writer than I give him credit for.

The story actually starts within one week of the hijacking when the FBI was tipped to a man named Sheridan Peterson.

Sheridan told me that his book is essentially an autobiography that is 95% real and 5% fictionalized. Obviously names and locations have been changed and he utilizes a healthy dose of metaphor.

Another critical piece of the puzzle relates to military payment certificates (MPC) which is how soldiers and American civilian workers were paid during the Vietnam War. Americans were not paid with cash. This gets into the weeds and goes off in an area that I haven't written about but it ties in with Sheridan's numbered--or secret--account while living in Nepal. It is especially interesting when one considers how little Sheridan earned during the time frame leading up to Nepal and the fact that he earned NOTHING for the 2 1/2 years he was there.

Sheridan had cash. Where did it come from?
Some men see things as they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

RFK
 

Offline snowmman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1877
  • Thanked: 176 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3685 on: October 25, 2018, 07:10:10 PM »
EU
no I'm talking about when the internet story started, not the internal FBI story.

When did you find out the FBI were tipped so early? Did you have access to FBI files at some point? Those files weren't available in 2008, correct?
 

Offline snowmman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1877
  • Thanked: 176 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3686 on: October 25, 2018, 07:12:39 PM »
If Sheridan had so much cash while in Nepal, how come he was broke when he left Nepal to go back to Vietnam..i.e. to get money

I think your theory that Sheridan had a lot of cash while in Nepal is weak. If so, how did it disappear in 2 1/2 years?
« Last Edit: October 25, 2018, 07:17:16 PM by snowmman »
 

Offline snowmman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1877
  • Thanked: 176 times
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3687 on: October 25, 2018, 07:14:15 PM »
I'm really confused about the timeline that EU has for the FBI info he bases his "id" of Sheridan on.
i.e. what year that info was available.
 

Offline EU

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1759
  • Thanked: 322 times
    • ERIC ULIS: From the History Channel
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3688 on: October 25, 2018, 07:15:37 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
EU
no I'm talking about when the internet story started, not the internal FBI story.

When did you find out the FBI were tipped so early? Did you have access to FBI files at some point? Those files weren't available in 2008, correct?

I only became aware of Sheridan being tipped to the FBI near the end of my research. This is because I studied the evidence and created a suspect profile first, then cross referenced my profile with the FBI files. I immediately became interested in the file that included Sheridan's resume', DoD filing and supplemental. However, Sheridan's name was redacted. I discovered his name by contacting and procuring graduation lists from Santa Rosa Junior College and Mizzou. Once I had his name it was easy to drill down.
Some men see things as they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

RFK
 

Offline EU

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1759
  • Thanked: 322 times
    • ERIC ULIS: From the History Channel
Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3689 on: October 25, 2018, 07:21:40 PM »
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
If Sheridan had so much cash while in Nepal, how come he was broke when he left Nepal to go back to Vietnam..i.e. to get money

I think your theory that Sheridan had a lot of cash while in Nepal is weak. If so, how did it disappear in 2 1/2 years?

A couple of things.

I do not believe Sheridan was broke. That said, I do know he made a habit of lending money to others--how as a poor man--which he had a problem collecting on.

We know he traveled the world extensively for decades after he left Nepal. This with his kids. Yet he worked little.

Also, isn't it interesting that he leaves the hell hole Vietnam, then decides to go back?. Why?
Some men see things as they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?

RFK