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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3570 on: October 23, 2018, 06:50:45 PM »
If there are any questions about suppressing normal fear responses, go see the documentary "Free Solo"...with Alex Honnold on El Cap.
They do an MRI of his brain. No normal fear responses to photo stimuli.
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« Reply #3571 on: October 23, 2018, 06:51:36 PM »
My daughter and her friends were all over My Space back then. FB hadn't yet crushed the competition.

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« Reply #3572 on: October 23, 2018, 06:53:02 PM »
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If there are any questions about suppressing normal fear responses, go see the documentary "Free Solo"...with Alex Honnold on El Cap.
They do an MRI of his brain. No normal fear responses to photo stimuli.

Hah.  Maybe if they showed a photo of an IRS Full Compliance Audit notice addressed to him.

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3573 on: October 23, 2018, 06:53:24 PM »
I never had a myspace page. I bet no one here ever had.

But Sheridan did. So weird. The guy sent me a gif this year in a text message. I'm thinking, how does a 92 year old with no kids no how to send a gif text message?
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3574 on: October 23, 2018, 06:54:25 PM »
I actually think Peterson and Honnold have something in common on fear response.

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3575 on: October 23, 2018, 06:55:18 PM »
more directly, you might say both of them are on the autism spectrum?
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« Reply #3576 on: October 23, 2018, 07:03:05 PM »
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I never had a myspace page. I bet no one here ever had.

But Sheridan did. So weird. The guy sent me a gif this year in a text message. I'm thinking, how does a 92 year old with no kids no how to send a gif text message?

He professes to know nothing about smartphones, posting attachments, etc, but then displays impressive skills. As I recall My Space was mostly used by young kids. I remember asking my daughter about who hung out there and she replied sarcastically "nobody old like you and Mom".

Sheridan professed to know nothing and care nothing about the types of aircraft he had jumped from, which is VERY odd for a skydiver. I called his professed ignorance and lack of interest into question when I (incorrectly) noted a DC 3 jump door in a smoke jumper photo. He instantly corrected me and pointed out that it was a Ford Tri Motor door. He posted a while back about Cooper jumping from a 737. Red Herring or typo?

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« Reply #3577 on: October 23, 2018, 07:06:07 PM »
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more directly, you might say both of them are on the autism spectrum?

I'm no psychologist. Not sure I would recognize the presence of mild symptoms.  Sheridan does get into beefs, a lot. I bet every past landlord has a story.

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« Reply #3578 on: October 23, 2018, 07:07:56 PM »
Sheridan also professes to know little about blogs and sites yet occasionally reveals something that suggests he monitors Cooper sites very closely.

Bet he is reading this.

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3579 on: October 23, 2018, 07:44:52 PM »
I'm trying to remember how Bruce located Mary Jean Fryar for an interview on Feb 11, 2010
(remember her partner, Noelle Devereux, described by Mary Jean as a "long drink of water" 6'1")

I think someone forwarded Bruce the Smokejumper article in 2011, based on a message from back then. Her name was in that, but I think we didn't know of the article at that time.

I'm not sure if Bruce got Mary Jean's name from Sheridan, or if I got it from the myspace page and somehow decided what her phone number was based on some web searching.

Bruce did his brother Alden interview around then also.


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« Reply #3580 on: October 23, 2018, 07:53:10 PM »
in 2010 MJ guessed the Sheridan interview as around 2002-2003

in Sheridan's article he says he was 77 (as does she?) if so, that's 15 years ago..so 2002-2003 is about right.

Somehow I copied someone saying it was 2004. That doesn't sound right.

Did anyone nail down the exact or more exact interview date? It's not 2004.

I'm thinking of the delay between 2002-2003 of the interview and the July, 2007 Smokejumper article. Why write it then? It was before Larry Carr started his press hijinx?

It was around Sept 2007 that Larry Carr arrived on the scene? (typo originally)
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3581 on: October 23, 2018, 08:02:41 PM »
In the Smokejumper article, Sheridan uses the phrase "we know" ..implying he's well read on Cooper articles

"What's more, as far as we know, he had neither an altimeter nor stopwatch, and besides he quite obviously had no idea what the elevation of the terrain was. Consequently he wouldn't have known when to pull the ripcord"

It's odd Sheridan would focus on that. I mean any real skydiver would be able to estimate when to pull (hell, pull when clear of the plane!) and the elevation would be known if he knew the Portland/Seattle flight path. Or at least able to estimate.
I mean if they're flying at 10,000' feet, then there must be a fair amount of ground clearance for a boeing 727 flying...just pull as soon as you can get clear of the plane, and maybe stable.

In his book, he also stresses about altitude on the final jump in the book. And elevation.

I guess he fixates on certain things.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3582 on: October 24, 2018, 12:14:47 AM »
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I never had a myspace page. I bet no one here ever had.

I did. I'm still pissed they purged all of the members' mailboxes a month before  found out about it happening.  My first words to my wife were tapped out in a Myspace message.
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« Reply #3583 on: October 24, 2018, 01:11:14 AM »
Cool Unsurelock.

I want to correct something I noted to 377 on the 1963-1964 airstairs test memo I posted recently.
I read "especially designed chute" in the memo and thought they were talking about a parachute

Which was odd since the photo we have published in early '65 in newspapers has no visible chute or static line.

Now I realize they probably mean a special chute to replace the airstairs, like the chute used in the air america video for dropping jumpers and boxes.

The 727 had to be either E1 or E2. (because of the unique paint scheme to them) ..So they modified one of them, and were flying around without airstairs. I wonder if the airstairs/chute modification was easy to take on/off. If the project lasted a couple months, I would think that would hinder any other testing with that prototype.

It must have been a big request from military/air america to devote so much energy to the project, especially when the prototypes were in short supply as they were trying to get commercial sales going.

NOTE: there is some stuff redacted in that memo. I wonder what else it said. Maybe just the customer? Two and one half lines were redacted though. Probably had other interesting info.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3584 on: October 24, 2018, 10:22:48 AM »
Just FYI I'm not posting on the thread EU has, because that appears to be about promoting his book project/web site, kind of like a Blevins affair

We talked about Sheridan being in touch with Cooper publications.

Here's a review by Sheridan on amazon of the "DB Cooper Case Closed" stuff

In it he says "I recognized the reserve with the red X painted across it which D. B. jumped with. I used it countless times to show students how to deploy the chute in ordered that it didn't tangle with the main. I had daisy chain the shroud lines. I would like to have seen the expression on his face, when or if he'd deployed it. "

So here's Sheridan saying there was a reserve with a red X (as opposed to the red flaps description we've had elsewhere. I suppose both are pretty unsubstantiated, as to what is factual. He repeats the daisy chain shroud lines comment. Sheridan may have daisy chained the lines back in '62-'64  (I'm not sure of his last jump or instructor deal at Issaquah...Can guess it's '62-'64...although elsewhere he says the Boeing Skydivers Club had a place in Kent, WA to jump, I believe? Clifford jumped with Sheridan at Issaquah in '62..so I'm guessing '62-'64 is the best we can guess for Sheridan at Issaquah in some way.

I wonder if Sheridan really did pack the training reserve that way back in '62-'64 and why he repeats it. I've not watched the episode he's commenting on.

He mentions the 737 here again. I wonder if that's the influence of all the questioning people gave him from what Sailshaw was working on (737)

Does anyone know if in this show they said "red X" on the training reserve (whether or not it is true)


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It was outstanding, especially the part featuring me. I especially like the camera shots of my flat. If I had it to do over, I wouldn't have made that dig about Smokejumpers not being skydivers. It was a generalization and obviously not true. There are so many mitigating circumstances that link me to D. B. Cooper. For one thing I earned my skydiving instructor's license at the Issaqua Sky Port where D. B. got his four rigs. I recognized the reserve with the red X painted across it which D. B. jumped with. I used it countless times to show students how to deploy the chute in ordered that it didn't tangle with the main. I had daisy chain the shroud lines. I would like to have seen the expression on his face, when or if he'd deployed it. Secondly I was a tech writer at Boeing and many people figured I knew all about the the 737 which I did not. I was actually an editor removing gobbledygook from the engineers documents so they were easier to read. President and safety officer of the Saigon Sport Parachute Club, I left Vietnam August, 1970 for Nepal. My son Sheridan Junior was born in Kathmandu and on Halloween night 1972 my daughter was born in Pokhara, Nepal. D. B. made the Heist in 1971 so of course I could not have been D. B. Nevertheless, F.B.I. agents went to Pokhara and spoke with the missionary doctor who supervised the delivery of my daughter, Ginger.
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