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Offline Shutter

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3405 on: October 21, 2018, 03:03:07 PM »
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and I have NEVER claimed this theory as FACT.

You present it in a way that makes it appear to be fact...similar to arguing with someone with a suspect..
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« Reply #3406 on: October 21, 2018, 03:21:57 PM »
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and I have NEVER claimed this theory as FACT.

You present it in a way that makes it appear to be fact...similar to arguing with someone with a suspect..

"appear" "similar" that is your bias, NOT FACT. I already stated there may be other possibilities. This is becoming a colossal waste of time. You guys want to keep going in circles for another 40+ years, go ahead.

There has been no other explanation brought up. Just BS attacks.. I asked for possible explanations and got shut down.. and attacked for it.

How does the money go from in 100's to random sized by bank employee to being found in 100's, ANYBODY? rubber or paper bands..

Nobody has an explanation. Not a theory, NOTHING but BS comments and false accusations.


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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3407 on: October 21, 2018, 03:26:04 PM »
Hold on one minute pal...

where are you being shutdown?, it's being debated..
You are involved in the never ending circle !

I have yet to read a memo stating the bills were randomized..
I don't see enough to explain anything based on what we have...
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3408 on: October 21, 2018, 03:38:03 PM »
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How does the money go from in 100's to random sized by bank employee to being found in 100's, ANYBODY? rubber or paper bands..

Has anyone shown a memo that the bills were randomized? the bank was very specific in statements.

what I've seen is two agents claiming it was randomized..one some say is full of crap and the other dummied up?

you keep claiming the bills were randomized based on two people who have credibility issues. I keep telling I don't know but then you claim you are being "attacked"

Georger has said what he knows and goes by what he did with others surrounding this issue..it doesn't click with what he knows.

Is it possible they are wrong? Carr/Baker

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3409 on: October 21, 2018, 03:41:11 PM »
In terms of the list of things EU posted, there is also bourbon/smokes/language

One of the things that bothers me about Sheridan, is that apparently he used to have a shot of bourbon now and then.
What's my evidence? Well knowledge of the autobiographical nature of his book, the schizophrenic main characters, and text in the book.

Same thing with use of the phrases "get this show on the road", "do the job",  and "fuss"
It's also reasonable to believe that Sheridan may have smoked back in the day. But no stronger evidence on that.

Sure it doesn't mean anything. But it bothers me.

Oh, and remember how Sheridan claimed Larry Carr contacted him and bought his book. I don't think that's true. I think Sheridan decided I was Larry Carr.
So when EU claims Larry Carr contacted Sheridan and bought his book, I don't think there's any evidence of that to rely on.
I think the only person that has ever bought his book, is me.

I will say though, that for all the words EU has put together, he's not identified anything that seems new to me.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3410 on: October 21, 2018, 03:44:13 PM »
Just about every suspect runs through a similar pattern...

I could have a lot of similarities shared by Bundy but it doesn't mean I'm a serial killer...

If I killed Cap N' Crunch, would that make me a serial killer  :rofl:
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« Reply #3411 on: October 21, 2018, 03:45:54 PM »
Another thing that pisses me off, is when 377 convinced Sheridan to register and post on the DZ.com thread, and when he did, there was immediate abuse from Jerry and skyjack71. It was craziness to the max. I always thought the forum blew the opportunity to learn about Sheridan and jumping back in the day...It was the ultimate example, for me, about how the forum was more about a group pissing contest, than anything real.
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« Reply #3412 on: October 21, 2018, 03:47:21 PM »
that's similar to what Robert did to Marla Cooper..
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3413 on: October 21, 2018, 03:51:29 PM »
Oh here's another thought that comes from reading Sheridan
The "do the job" quote from Cooper...that sounded like a silly 1930's gangster movie imitation.

But now I'm wondering if it's a person's reaction to being recently fired, maybe with a feeling of being accused of job incompetence, sort of a claim of being able to do this job..

kind of a inner insecurity about perceived job performance (based on past) playing out in language used.

there's a quote in Sheridan's book about whether someone could "do the job", also.
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« Reply #3414 on: October 21, 2018, 03:55:34 PM »
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How does the money go from in 100's to random sized by bank employee to being found in 100's, ANYBODY? rubber or paper bands..

Has anyone shown a memo that the bills were randomized? the bank was very specific in statements.

what I've seen is two agents claiming it was randomized..one some say is full of crap and the other dummied up?

you keep claiming the bills were randomized based on two people who have credibility issues. I keep telling I don't know but then you claim you are being "attacked"

Georger has said what he knows and goes by what he did with others surrounding this issue..it doesn't click with what he knows.

Is it possible they are wrong? Carr/Baker

It is possible, but that means two agents 30 years apart completely manufactured evidence. A conspiracy? Usually, errors are misunderstandings or assumptions. I recall reading it elsewhere but have to search.
Then you have Tina's statement and the Bank info from the FBI docs.

So, is it possible that all that info is wrong or manufactured, sure. But, where does end. Do we assume everything from the FBI is wrong or just some of it. How do we discriminate.

As I said, all I know is something doesn't add up with the dominant TBAR money narrative.. I offered an explanation that fits the evidence. Others require a rejection of multiple pieces of evidence.

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3415 on: October 21, 2018, 03:57:07 PM »
It's possible Carr feed off of Baker.....lots of things are possible when you don't have the full story...
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« Reply #3416 on: October 21, 2018, 03:58:32 PM »
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Oh here's another thought that comes from reading Sheridan
The "do the job" quote from Cooper...that sounded like a silly 1930's gangster movie imitation.

But now I'm wondering if it's a person's reaction to being recently fired, maybe with a feeling of being accused of job incompetence, sort of a claim of being able to do this job..

kind of a inner insecurity about perceived job performance (based on past) playing out in language used.

there's a quote in Sheridan's book about whether someone could "do the job", also.


where did "get the show on the road" originate?
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« Reply #3417 on: October 21, 2018, 03:58:41 PM »
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It's possible Carr feed off of Baker.....lots of things are possible when you don't have the full story...

I don't beleive so as Carr spoke to the Bank employee..
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3418 on: October 21, 2018, 03:59:52 PM »
And while Sheridan talks about it as Vietnam documentary...which parts of it are...it tends to be dominated by the autobiographical tragedies that lead up to being in Vietnam, and various grudges.

And ends with a parachute jump.

Now you would think the parachute jump then leads up to something dramatic, but it doesn't

The book ends with this reference to the two schizophrenic characters that are both actually Sheridan: (Grant Olson and Vince Grecco)

"Do you know Grant Olson?" Huu Bien asked.
"Yes, I know him." Grecco said. "I know him quite well."
"He is an American too." Huu Bien said. "He's a good man. The only one I met.
The rest were bastards"
"Don't be fooled," Vince said "He's the worst"


It's an odd way to end the book. Kind of self-loathing by Sheridan.


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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3419 on: October 21, 2018, 04:00:38 PM »
"get the show on the road"


There are a few speculative origin stories that sources list for this expression. Some people mention theater productions. It is common for a show to start in one location, like Broadway, and then travel to other locations after becoming successful in the first.

Another idea is that it relates to circuses or traveling fairs. These events travel from one city to another.

The earliest example readily available of this expression was from the year 1889. It put the idiom in quotes and referred to it as an expression of the day.

This makes it seem as if the idiom was relatively recent during that year. It was referring to the Rockton Fair. This makes it seem like the fair or circus origin is the more likely of the two possibilities.
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