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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #330 on: November 23, 2014, 05:23:50 PM »
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I agree Georger. A tracking device could have been installed.

Speaking of which, do you know why none were inserted?  There are two reports that seem hard to swallow:

1. Larry says the technology was not available at that time. (Phone interview with me in 2008.)
2. NORAD told McChord not to put tracking devices onto the chutes, according to reporter Adele Ferguson, and somehow that command was transmitted to NWO.

By the way, your attribution of the above quote is incorrect. The quote about the NB-8 or NB-6 chute is from Ralph Hatley, not yours truly. Ralph made the statement in an interview which I have posted here and elsewhere.

Tracking devices of one kind or another were routinely being used by American pilots in Southeast Asia during this time frame.  In 1971, these were probably "homing" type devices that required multiple stations to use triangles to determine the homing devices location.

Maj Dawson thought they were going to supply the chutes and wanted to put chaff in the chutes... that was vetoed, according to Dawson ?
 

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« Reply #331 on: November 23, 2014, 08:29:12 PM »
I agree. In fact the technology ws quite advanced in 1971. All sorts of gadgets were spread around Khe Sanh and the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

I thought Larry's response at the time was quite clumsy and self-serving, but I chose not to confront him. After all, I'm a nice guy...
 

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« Reply #332 on: November 23, 2014, 08:30:44 PM »
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I agree Georger. A tracking device could have been installed.

Speaking of which, do you know why none were inserted?  There are two reports that seem hard to swallow:

1. Larry says the technology was not available at that time. (Phone interview with me in 2008.)
2. NORAD told McChord not to put tracking devices onto the chutes, according to reporter Adele Ferguson, and somehow that command was transmitted to NWO.

By the way, your attribution of the above quote is incorrect. The quote about the NB-8 or NB-6 chute is from Ralph Hatley, not yours truly. Ralph made the statement in an interview which I have posted here and elsewhere.

Tracking devices of one kind or another were routinely being used by American pilots in Southeast Asia during this time frame.  In 1971, these were probably "homing" type devices that required multiple stations to use triangles to determine the homing devices location.

Maj Dawson thought they were going to supply the chutes and wanted to put chaff in the chutes... that was vetoed, according to Dawson ?

Yup. That's what's read from Adele. Although she lives not too far from me, she has never responded to my efforts to speak with her.  She has no email and phone number listed that I can find.  Only snail mail.
 

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« Reply #333 on: November 23, 2014, 08:39:30 PM »
Dawson also speaks of the flight path going straight down from Toledo. I guess Mr. Dawson didn't realize really smart guys made the flight path  :D ;D ;)
 

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« Reply #334 on: November 24, 2014, 04:46:08 PM »
Might be some hope for the KC saga yet  ;D ;D

Seattle PI. November 24, 2014

An olive-skinned man about 5-foot-1, Cooper wore a black raincoat, white shirt, loafers, and dark suit with a black JCPenny clip-on tie. He took a seat in the back of the plane.

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« Reply #335 on: November 24, 2014, 05:51:31 PM »
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Might be some hope for the KC saga yet  ;D ;D

Seattle PI. November 24, 2014

An olive-skinned man about 5-foot-1, Cooper wore a black raincoat, white shirt, loafers, and dark suit with a black JCPenny clip-on tie. He took a seat in the back of the plane.

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These are the same people that published a map showing Tena Bar clear over at Camas! Funny. BTW our early cold spell in November (still going on with snow) broke a 137 year old record...
 

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« Reply #336 on: November 24, 2014, 05:59:28 PM »
Sorry to add this....It's currently 83 degree's in South Florida. (feels like 80 Brrrr)  ;D ;D ;D

A/C......ON  >:(
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« Reply #337 on: November 24, 2014, 06:35:03 PM »
This is what makes you wonder how much experience Cooper had?

Carr once again:

"Cooper made an inspection of the chutes when Tina was present. As well as the money and the bag the money came in. He made his concerns clear to Tina about the money bag. He checked the money and made statements about that. He stated several times, "no funny stuff," providing nonfunctioning equipment would be funy stuff. Reason dictates that if he new the reserve was a dummy he would have said something about that as well. I doubt that Cooper would have been able to gain any information about the wind conditions by throwing a chute off the air stairs. It was dark, the chute would have instantly disappeared from his sight the moment he let go of it. Of course almost anything is possible, but the evidence points to him jumping with it, not that he did, it just points in that direction."
 

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« Reply #338 on: November 24, 2014, 09:07:59 PM »
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Sorry to add this....It's currently 83 degree's in South Florida. (feels like 80 Brrrr)  ;D ;D ;D

A/C......ON  >:(


Shaddup, you m....fer...
 

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« Reply #339 on: November 24, 2014, 09:09:47 PM »
Are you......cold?  ;D ;D ;D

Update....It has dipped into the upper 70"s  ;D
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« Reply #340 on: November 24, 2014, 09:10:21 PM »
Happy Anniversary, everyone.  43 years.
 

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« Reply #341 on: November 24, 2014, 09:12:25 PM »
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Are you......cold?  ;D ;D ;D

Update....It has dipped into the upper 70"s  ;D


It ain't snowin', but it ain't 80 either.  (40-ish and rain for the seventh straight day.)

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« Reply #342 on: November 24, 2014, 09:16:00 PM »
Sorry, I edited your post. I do it more times than people know. I usually catch it  ;D
Meaning, I think I'm making a new post, but I hit modify on other poster comment....oops.


That's jump weather in Washington. ;D sounds like the same as 71?
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« Reply #343 on: November 25, 2014, 12:02:06 AM »
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Sorry to add this....It's currently 83 degree's in South Florida. (feels like 80 Brrrr)  ;D ;D ;D

A/C......ON  >:(

All I can say is mush mush. More often than not we often have snow on Thanksgiving. Time for Holiday lights....     
 

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« Reply #344 on: November 25, 2014, 12:24:53 AM »
If you aren't aware turn on CNN for the events in Ferguson MO tonight!