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FLYJACK

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3270 on: October 19, 2018, 10:30:48 PM »
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Are you talking about this Bill Baker from 1980? Like I said they said wrong stuff in 1980 about the money
Dorwin Schreuer, chief agent on Tena Bar
Asst. Director Bill Baker, Schreuder's Portland superior at the time

How would a Portland guy be an expert on how the money was packaged in Seattle? Did he read some secret memo. Don't think so. They were full of crap in Portland.

If it was only Baker in 1980 that would be less reliable, but Ckret said the same thing 30 years later after talking to the bank employee..
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« Reply #3271 on: October 19, 2018, 10:31:07 PM »
Baker was with Tom Colbert , so I asked Tom if he could find anything out and he replied that Baker didn't remember anything from the money find?
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FLYJACK

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« Reply #3272 on: October 19, 2018, 10:35:08 PM »
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Baker was with Tom Colbert , so I asked Tom if he could find anything out and he replied that Baker didn't remember anything from the money find?

The Baker quote is cited on Tom's site..

I just don't see how Baker and Ckret could make up the same thing 30 years apart..
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« Reply #3273 on: October 19, 2018, 10:37:30 PM »
nice aerial photo of the FBI dig on Tena Bar in 1980 from a newspaper at that time
I hadn't seen this before.
you can see their lines and how they disturbed the surface soil
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« Reply #3274 on: October 19, 2018, 10:41:30 PM »
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Baker was with Tom Colbert , so I asked Tom if he could find anything out and he replied that Baker didn't remember anything from the money find?

The Baker quote is cited on Tom's site..

I just don't see how Baker and Ckret could make up the same thing 30 years apart..

the quote from 1980?
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3275 on: October 19, 2018, 10:41:39 PM »
Shut just called me. He wants me to join him and run away to the Bank Strap Circus. He gave me Bill Grinnell's home phone number and address, and this evening I called to hear what he remembers from the night in question.

I could only leave a message, but he sounded spry and youthful on his message, so I am hopeful that we can get a more definitive view on how the bundles were bundola-ed.

Plus, as fate would have it, I have to be in Edmonds at the crack of dawn (11:30 am, which is damn early for me, actually) on a side gig, so in the afternoon - if I have time and am still awake - I will try and stop by Mr. Grinnell's abode and have a face-to-face.

Ta, ta, for now...
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« Reply #3276 on: October 19, 2018, 10:43:46 PM »
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nice aerial photo of the FBI dig on Tena Bar in 1980 from a newspaper at that time
I hadn't seen this before.
you can see their lines and how they disturbed the surface soil


Yes, and I believe Tom Kaye was off by a couple hundred feet too far south with his location....
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« Reply #3277 on: October 19, 2018, 11:04:04 PM »
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Baker was with Tom Colbert , so I asked Tom if he could find anything out and he replied that Baker didn't remember anything from the money find?

The Baker quote is cited on Tom's site..

I just don't see how Baker and Ckret could make up the same thing 30 years apart..

the quote from 1980?

yes, from 1980..

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WEDNESDAY Feb 13th

​"Numbered sequence of the bills in the stack still the same (Oregonian)"
​"FBI agent Baker from Portland said bundles were randomized (Oregonian)"
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3278 on: October 19, 2018, 11:08:13 PM »
my point was he quoted something from 1980...today he doesn't recall anything....
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« Reply #3279 on: October 19, 2018, 11:09:45 PM »
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my point was he quoted something from 1980...today he doesn't recall anything....

yes.. that was my understanding
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« Reply #3280 on: October 19, 2018, 11:12:06 PM »
it doesn't help this matter...he doesn't seem to want to recall something he should of remembered..
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« Reply #3281 on: October 19, 2018, 11:19:33 PM »
The key on Ckret's post, is that he didn't cite where he got what he claimed.
He even says the bank employee interview was worthless.
It's easy to read Ckret's thing and assume it says something it doesn't say.

Unless there's a secret FBI memo, Ckret just made up a theory, probably reiterating something like Baker said.
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« Reply #3282 on: October 19, 2018, 11:21:12 PM »
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it doesn't help this matter...he doesn't seem to want to recall something he should of remembered..

Alzheimer's? age can really affect your memory.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3283 on: October 19, 2018, 11:21:26 PM »
where does he claim it was worthless...sounded more like a misunderstanding?
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FLYJACK

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« Reply #3284 on: October 19, 2018, 11:23:53 PM »
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The key on Ckret's post, is that he didn't cite where he got what he claimed.
He even says the bank employee interview was worthless.
It's easy to read Ckret's thing and assume it says something it doesn't say.

Unless there's a secret FBI memo, Ckret just made up a theory, probably reiterating something like Baker said.

The odds that two agents 30 years apart independently made up the same story...  slim to none, IMO.
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