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Offline Shutter

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3210 on: October 19, 2018, 05:54:41 PM »
any other closeups with the nitrate on them?
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3211 on: October 19, 2018, 05:55:58 PM »
here's the originals of the first. You can see them better (and zoom) here.

You can get the original very high quality photo and zoom in and out at
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That's the first bill, front.

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Click on the bills to zoom, then select view full size to get the best image
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3212 on: October 19, 2018, 05:56:30 PM »
Snow, you were on the DZ at the time Carr explained speaking with the bank that they had no bands on them because they didn't want anyone knowing where the money came from?
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3213 on: October 19, 2018, 05:57:35 PM »
yes. Ckret was full of baloney. There is nothing to back that up.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3214 on: October 19, 2018, 05:58:48 PM »
The bills were not filmed the day of the hijack.
They were not loose bills. They were strapped and previously recorded
there was no second recording
and no one unstrapped them and rebundled in rubber bands

all that story telling is nonsense.

And strapping would be in fixed sizes. A machine isn't going to be built to strap in weird amounts? And humans don't strap/count?
The fbi memo confirms the strapping in fixed sizes
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3215 on: October 19, 2018, 06:05:49 PM »
The multiple FBI memos talking about the microfiche and the unused bundles and then a 2nd memo expanding that to 2 rolls of microfiche and more bills...that all points to the microfiche not being taken the day of the hijack

Why would they have microfiche with bills that were unused? Everyone knew they only needed $200k

If they microfiched the day of the hijack, why did they microfiche more than $200k? And if there were two sets of microfiche, why were they not just talking about the 2nd set that would be exact for what Cooper got?

that story of bundling the day of the hijack, is nonsense and not supported by the facts.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3216 on: October 19, 2018, 06:07:42 PM »
I don't think anyone here believes they were bundled the day of the hijacking...I would tend to believe rubber bands vs straps if they had there name on the straps....
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3217 on: October 19, 2018, 06:10:53 PM »
Shutter, here's a closeup of G00061029B Series 1969 front cropped.

It has the agent initial and some purple staining, but not much. It has a lot of brown discoloring which would make you think it was an outer bill.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3218 on: October 19, 2018, 06:12:44 PM »
How can you believe rubber bands instead of straps, when all the fbi memo say "bank bands"

You're going off of the postings of Larry Carr.

There's no other confirmation of the things he said, or whether he even understood correctly, the people he was talking to. If he talked to anyone.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3219 on: October 19, 2018, 06:13:48 PM »
human testimony?
paper bands don't crumble?
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3220 on: October 19, 2018, 06:15:14 PM »
here is a folded 20 beside a Cooper 20
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3221 on: October 19, 2018, 06:15:47 PM »
if the rubber band theory doesn't say they were bundled the day of the hijacking, when did the magical rubber bands get on the bundles, and why do they talk about fixed size bundles the day of the hijack, if the bundles rubber-banded some other day, had non-fixed amounts?

and if the amounts of bundles were differing...why when they talk about the unused bundles (15 of them) they are all the same size..all 100 bills
they talk about the start/stop numbers and the 98 bills in between.

There's  no way to align the known memos, with the crazy rubber band bundle theories. That's why no one can write that idea down....no matter what you say, there's always holes in it. It couldn't have happened that way.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3222 on: October 19, 2018, 06:17:33 PM »
I never said the bundles differed...paper or rubber band or paper clips won't change that amount...
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3223 on: October 19, 2018, 06:17:41 PM »
interesting Shutter, your folded twenty
it kind of shows that if you fold a twenty the line kind of goes over the right eye?

if you put a rubber band on in the middle, then it should fall on the same right eye....basically you're showing the middle of the bill.
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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3224 on: October 19, 2018, 06:19:10 PM »
Shutter, if you don't believe the part of the rubber band myth story that the bundles differed, why believe the other parts of it?

you're cherrypicking details from a random story, to try to fit the facts that disprove it.

You shouldn't do that. ....I mean, if you believe that part of the story is BS, you should disbelieve the other stuff too.
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