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just can't upload a pic for some reason.

We have a size limit on photo's due to storage capabilities....even though these sites claim to have unlimited space it's not really true..check and see what size the pic is...

It was 199k. That's why I couldn't figure out the issue. Perhaps I just need a beer to clear my mind and revisit it. #iwontbedefeated

If the bundles were rubber banded and randomized (counts) and TBAR packets were in 100's it wasn't the packets that was randomized but the bundles were (groups of packets). They were also then rubber banded.

Ckret mistakenly believed the packets were randomized..


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Jan 30, 2008, 6:44 PM
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The money was provided by Seafirst bank which is now Bank of America. The moneyhad been earmarked for situations such as these and was always on hand. It had been photographed and serial numbers recorded by their security so the FBI did none of this.

The money was then transported by SeaFirst bank security to a Seattle police detective who then drove it to the airport and handed over to NWA. The money was bundled in various counts so that no bundle was the same. Each bundle was secured by rubber band and different counts so that it appeared the money was hastily gathered.

I've been trying to check prison records for a particular suspect and have been coming up empty. Federal records only go back so far online, and requesting them by snail mail can take a lifetime.

Anybody have any oddball suggestions for checking prison records?

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I've been trying to check prison records for a particular suspect and have been coming up empty. Federal records only go back so far online, and requesting them by snail mail can take a lifetime.

Anybody have any oddball suggestions for checking prison records?

State archives...

Yeah, I should have been more clear. These are Federal prison records I'm trying to pull up, and they can take their sweet time.

Hal Williams didn't think the first sketch was accurate...


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"It was Williams who gave police the Cooper description from which artists drew pictures of the hijacker. "The composite drawing never did look just like him. The chin was a bit thin and the hair was not quite right," Williams said."

another 302 conflict..

Both dated Dec 1/71

Re: takeoff airstairs lowered

Tina - Cooper "Yes, they can, but the cockpit can put it down after they get airborne."

and

Tina - Cooper "Yes you can, but that's alright, we can lower it later."


The first suggests Cooper incorrectly believed that the cockpit controlled the Airstairs the second does not...

If the second was true then Cooper wasn't incorrect..

Yes, standard disparity.

One would think that they would be very careful to use the precise language relayed when filling out such reports. Obviously such subtle differences can be critically important.

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another 302 conflict..

Both dated Dec 1/71

Re: takeoff airstairs lowered

Tina - Cooper "Yes, they can, but the cockpit can put it down after they get airborne."

and

Tina - Cooper "Yes you can, but that's alright, we can lower it later."


The first suggests Cooper incorrectly believed that the cockpit controlled the Airstairs the second does not...

If the second was true then Cooper wasn't incorrect..

Yes, standard disparity.

One would think that they would be very careful to use the precise language relayed when filling out such reports. Obviously such subtle differences can be critically important.

I suppose I shouldn't assume that the FBI messed this up. It is entirely possible that Tina herself couldn't remember the precise terminology.

The agent's conduct interviews, usually in pairs, one take notes. The 302's are summaries of the notes.. barely better than hearsay.

FBI "misunderstanding",,,

"lowering of the door and the stairs were accomplished in flight"

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another 302 conflict..

Both dated Dec 1/71

Re: takeoff airstairs lowered

Tina - Cooper "Yes, they can, but the cockpit can put it down after they get airborne."

and

Tina - Cooper "Yes you can, but that's alright, we can lower it later."


The first suggests Cooper incorrectly believed that the cockpit controlled the Airstairs the second does not...

If the second was true then Cooper wasn't incorrect..

Yes, standard disparity.

One would think that they would be very careful to use the precise language relayed when filling out such reports. Obviously such subtle differences can be critically important.

I suppose I shouldn't assume that the FBI messed this up. It is entirely possible that Tina herself couldn't remember the precise terminology.

The agent's conduct interviews, usually in pairs, one take notes. The 302's are summaries of the notes.. barely better than hearsay.

FBI "misunderstanding",,,

"lowering of the door and the stairs were accomplished in flight"

These guys are professionals so it's obviously much better then hearsay. Point is that some details get misinterpreted which can be problematic. You regularly see this type of thing in newspaper articles...even the recent one about my Sheridan Peterson work in The Columbian had some details wrong.

The larger takeaway is that Cooper knew the airstairs could be deployed which is very important.

Yes, he knew/believed they could be deployed...  the possible inference error was that he thought the cockpit controlled the airstairs

I have been researching the Airlift Command operations in Vietnam, C-130's and C-7 Caribou's used for drops could take off with rear open. Cooper may have been involved there in some capacity and not specifically the 727. Though Air America had the 727, C-130 and Caribou's.