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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3075 on: September 03, 2018, 11:19:16 AM »
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Radio Shack sold the ideal Cooper receiver for $29. I owned one in 1969. It was a small pocket sized transistor radio that could tune the entire VHF AM Aircraft Band, roughly 118-136 MHz. Used a common 9 volt batt. Had a speaker and headphone jack. He could have heard everything. Tower, plane even could tune in VORs and listen to their ID but wouldn’t get radial info. Using a technique called body shielding he might have been able to get a rough bearing on a VOR. The technique is explained here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

377

Thanks, that was what I thought.

VHF...  and were there portable radios that had VHF and long wave? or low frequency?


I still can't figure out why the cockpit would want a radio?? and Cooper knew about it.

Was it for Cooper or the crew? Why would Cooper allow the crew to get a new radio?

What happened to it?

If it was for Cooper did he take it with him or leave it behind?
 

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« Reply #3076 on: September 03, 2018, 11:21:44 AM »
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It's strange that nobody ever found or posted this document mentioning a radio before if its real.

What type of radio would be needed just to listen to cockpit communications?

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The radio in your link would not be able to receive cockpit radio communications.  It does not have the right frequency band.

What frequency is it missing or needed? Are there similar portable radios with the right frequency?

As the claimed expert on all things Cooper, why aren't you able to answer your own questions?
 

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« Reply #3077 on: September 03, 2018, 11:23:19 AM »
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Radio Shack sold the ideal Cooper receiver for $29. I owned one in 1969. It was a small pocket sized transistor radio that could tune the entire VHF AM Aircraft Band, roughly 118-136 MHz. Used a common 9 volt batt. Had a speaker and headphone jack. He could have heard everything. Tower, plane even could tune in VORs and listen to their ID but wouldn’t get radial info. Using a technique called body shielding he might have been able to get a rough bearing on a VOR. The technique is explained here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

377

Thanks, that was what I thought.

VHF...  and were there portable radios that had VHF and long wave? or low frequency?


I still can't figure out why the cockpit would want a radio?? and Cooper knew about it.

Was it for Cooper or the crew? Why would Cooper allow the crew to get a new radio?

What happened to it?

If it was for Cooper did he take it with him or leave it behind?

Same answer as my previous post.
 

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« Reply #3078 on: September 03, 2018, 11:31:23 AM »
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Radio Shack sold the ideal Cooper receiver for $29. I owned one in 1969. It was a small pocket sized transistor radio that could tune the entire VHF AM Aircraft Band, roughly 118-136 MHz. Used a common 9 volt batt. Had a speaker and headphone jack. He could have heard everything. Tower, plane even could tune in VORs and listen to their ID but wouldn’t get radial info. Using a technique called body shielding he might have been able to get a rough bearing on a VOR. The technique is explained here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

377

Thanks, that was what I thought.

VHF...  and were there portable radios that had VHF and long wave? or low frequency?


I still can't figure out why the cockpit would want a radio?? and Cooper knew about it.

Was it for Cooper or the crew? Why would Cooper allow the crew to get a new radio?

What happened to it?

If it was for Cooper did he take it with him or leave it behind?

Same answer as my previous post.

Clearly, you have no clue why the crew would need a radio... you keep avoiding the question.
 

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« Reply #3079 on: September 03, 2018, 11:39:47 AM »
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Radio Shack sold the ideal Cooper receiver for $29. I owned one in 1969. It was a small pocket sized transistor radio that could tune the entire VHF AM Aircraft Band, roughly 118-136 MHz. Used a common 9 volt batt. Had a speaker and headphone jack. He could have heard everything. Tower, plane even could tune in VORs and listen to their ID but wouldn’t get radial info. Using a technique called body shielding he might have been able to get a rough bearing on a VOR. The technique is explained here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

377

Thanks, that was what I thought.

VHF...  and were there portable radios that had VHF and long wave? or low frequency?


I still can't figure out why the cockpit would want a radio?? and Cooper knew about it.

Was it for Cooper or the crew? Why would Cooper allow the crew to get a new radio?

What happened to it?

If it was for Cooper did he take it with him or leave it behind?

Same answer as my previous post.

Clearly, you have no clue why the crew would need a radio... you keep avoiding the question.

AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!
 

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« Reply #3080 on: September 03, 2018, 11:50:49 AM »
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Radio Shack sold the ideal Cooper receiver for $29. I owned one in 1969. It was a small pocket sized transistor radio that could tune the entire VHF AM Aircraft Band, roughly 118-136 MHz. Used a common 9 volt batt. Had a speaker and headphone jack. He could have heard everything. Tower, plane even could tune in VORs and listen to their ID but wouldn’t get radial info. Using a technique called body shielding he might have been able to get a rough bearing on a VOR. The technique is explained here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

377

Thanks, that was what I thought.

VHF...  and were there portable radios that had VHF and long wave? or low frequency?


I still can't figure out why the cockpit would want a radio?? and Cooper knew about it.

Was it for Cooper or the crew? Why would Cooper allow the crew to get a new radio?

What happened to it?

If it was for Cooper did he take it with him or leave it behind?

Same answer as my previous post.

Clearly, you have no clue why the crew would need a radio... you keep avoiding the question.

AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!

nope,,

you are the airplane radio expert here and have no idea why the crew would need a radio..

any guesses? 
 

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Re: Clues, Documents And Evidence About The Case
« Reply #3081 on: September 03, 2018, 11:56:53 AM »
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Radio Shack sold the ideal Cooper receiver for $29. I owned one in 1969. It was a small pocket sized transistor radio that could tune the entire VHF AM Aircraft Band, roughly 118-136 MHz. Used a common 9 volt batt. Had a speaker and headphone jack. He could have heard everything. Tower, plane even could tune in VORs and listen to their ID but wouldn’t get radial info. Using a technique called body shielding he might have been able to get a rough bearing on a VOR. The technique is explained here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

377

Thanks, that was what I thought.

VHF...  and were there portable radios that had VHF and long wave? or low frequency?


I still can't figure out why the cockpit would want a radio?? and Cooper knew about it.

Was it for Cooper or the crew? Why would Cooper allow the crew to get a new radio?

What happened to it?

If it was for Cooper did he take it with him or leave it behind?

Same answer as my previous post.

Clearly, you have no clue why the crew would need a radio... you keep avoiding the question.

AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!

nope,,

you are the airplane radio expert here and have no idea why the crew would need a radio..

any guesses?

How do we know that the document discussing a radio is accurate? Is there a link to the full document? I must say, I've never heard of anything about a radio before.
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« Reply #3082 on: September 03, 2018, 12:11:57 PM »
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Radio Shack sold the ideal Cooper receiver for $29. I owned one in 1969. It was a small pocket sized transistor radio that could tune the entire VHF AM Aircraft Band, roughly 118-136 MHz. Used a common 9 volt batt. Had a speaker and headphone jack. He could have heard everything. Tower, plane even could tune in VORs and listen to their ID but wouldn’t get radial info. Using a technique called body shielding he might have been able to get a rough bearing on a VOR. The technique is explained here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

377

Thanks, that was what I thought.

VHF...  and were there portable radios that had VHF and long wave? or low frequency?


I still can't figure out why the cockpit would want a radio?? and Cooper knew about it.

Was it for Cooper or the crew? Why would Cooper allow the crew to get a new radio?

What happened to it?

If it was for Cooper did he take it with him or leave it behind?

Same answer as my previous post.

Clearly, you have no clue why the crew would need a radio... you keep avoiding the question.

AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!

nope,,

you are the airplane radio expert here and have no idea why the crew would need a radio..

any guesses?

How do we know that the document discussing a radio is accurate? Is there a link to the full document? I must say, I've never heard of anything about a radio before.

Doc is accurate... even Shutter has it.

That is why I brought up the point, nobody has mentioned it, but all I get is insults from the 3 stooges, it seems some people hate others more than they want to advance the case.  Too bad.

 

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Radio Shack sold the ideal Cooper receiver for $29. I owned one in 1969. It was a small pocket sized transistor radio that could tune the entire VHF AM Aircraft Band, roughly 118-136 MHz. Used a common 9 volt batt. Had a speaker and headphone jack. He could have heard everything. Tower, plane even could tune in VORs and listen to their ID but wouldn’t get radial info. Using a technique called body shielding he might have been able to get a rough bearing on a VOR. The technique is explained here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

377

Thanks, that was what I thought.

VHF...  and were there portable radios that had VHF and long wave? or low frequency?


I still can't figure out why the cockpit would want a radio?? and Cooper knew about it.

Was it for Cooper or the crew? Why would Cooper allow the crew to get a new radio?

What happened to it?

If it was for Cooper did he take it with him or leave it behind?

Same answer as my previous post.

Clearly, you have no clue why the crew would need a radio... you keep avoiding the question.

AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!

nope,,

you are the airplane radio expert here and have no idea why the crew would need a radio..

any guesses?

How do we know that the document discussing a radio is accurate? Is there a link to the full document? I must say, I've never heard of anything about a radio before.

Doc is accurate... even Shutter has it.

That is why I brought up the point, nobody has mentioned it, but all I get is insults from the 3 stooges, it seems some people hate others more than they want to advance the case.  Too bad.

So you and Shutter are now a team - running the forum - eh? That's rich.
 
And G, R99, and Meyer are "three stooges" ?

IS THAT RIGHT SHUTTER?

 

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« Reply #3084 on: September 03, 2018, 01:12:01 PM »
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Radio Shack sold the ideal Cooper receiver for $29. I owned one in 1969. It was a small pocket sized transistor radio that could tune the entire VHF AM Aircraft Band, roughly 118-136 MHz. Used a common 9 volt batt. Had a speaker and headphone jack. He could have heard everything. Tower, plane even could tune in VORs and listen to their ID but wouldn’t get radial info. Using a technique called body shielding he might have been able to get a rough bearing on a VOR. The technique is explained here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

377

Thanks, that was what I thought.

VHF...  and were there portable radios that had VHF and long wave? or low frequency?


I still can't figure out why the cockpit would want a radio?? and Cooper knew about it.

Was it for Cooper or the crew? Why would Cooper allow the crew to get a new radio?

What happened to it?

If it was for Cooper did he take it with him or leave it behind?

Same answer as my previous post.

Clearly, you have no clue why the crew would need a radio... you keep avoiding the question.

AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!

nope,,

you are the airplane radio expert here and have no idea why the crew would need a radio..

any guesses?

How do we know that the document discussing a radio is accurate? Is there a link to the full document? I must say, I've never heard of anything about a radio before.

Doc is accurate... even Shutter has it.

That is why I brought up the point, nobody has mentioned it, but all I get is insults from the 3 stooges, it seems some people hate others more than they want to advance the case.  Too bad.

So you and Shutter are now a team - running the forum - eh? That's rich.
 
And G, R99, and Meyer are "three stooges" ?

IS THAT RIGHT SHUTTER?

Shutter posted the two relevant "radio" parts of the doc for you..

yet, you 3 stooges keep attacking me for asking about it.. clearly you are more interested in attacking me, the messenger, than you are the case info..

You 3 completely ignore the "evidence"..  only because I brought it forward.

This isn't about me, it is about that RADIO Cooper knew was coming onto the plane.

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« Reply #3085 on: September 03, 2018, 01:31:01 PM »
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So you and Shutter are now a team - running the forum - eh? That's rich.
 
And G, R99, and Meyer are "three stooges" ?

IS THAT RIGHT SHUTTER?

NO, that's not right and I've had enough of you disrespecting me...I sit here reading how you have never seen anything about a radio..I posted two sections from the files showing a radio was in deed asked for...I also posted Carr explaining the money straps and why they didn't use them..

I don't agree with some of the things fly does but they are not grounds for removal..the word liar is used by both of you guys and were both warned several times not to use that term..I then have removed those comments. now you insult me several times in the last 12 hours and expect me to just allow it to continue?

Counter the argument...I showed what Carr said...use that as a combat tool instead of insulting over and over...find proof to knock down someone's theory...that's how it's done..

I put you in the cooler for 7 days...if you decide to come back you are more than welcome...if you decide not to come back..I will fully understand and wish you all the luck...those who don't like what I am saying can follow right along..I've had enough of all the bullshit arguments with this decades old case. this use to be fun but it's quickly turned into a circus and I'm tired of it..it's a public forum....I can't just toss people to the streets.

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« Reply #3086 on: September 03, 2018, 01:52:10 PM »
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you 3 stooges keep attacking me for asking about it

Name calling will also stop...
 

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« Reply #3087 on: September 03, 2018, 02:30:18 PM »
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So you and Shutter are now a team - running the forum - eh? That's rich.
 
And G, R99, and Meyer are "three stooges" ?

IS THAT RIGHT SHUTTER?

NO, that's not right and I've had enough of you disrespecting me...I sit here reading how you have never seen anything about a radio..I posted two sections from the files showing a radio was in deed asked for...I also posted Carr explaining the money straps and why they didn't use them..

I don't agree with some of the things fly does but they are not grounds for removal..the word liar is used by both of you guys and were both warned several times not to use that term..I then have removed those comments. now you insult me several times in the last 12 hours and expect me to just allow it to continue?

Counter the argument...I showed what Carr said...use that as a combat tool instead of insulting over and over...find proof to knock down someone's theory...that's how it's done..

I put you in the cooler for 7 days...if you decide to come back you are more than welcome...if you decide not to come back..I will fully understand and wish you all the luck...those who don't like what I am saying can follow right along..I've had enough of all the bullshit arguments with this decades old case. this use to be fun but it's quickly turned into a circus and I'm tired of it..it's a public forum....I can't just toss people to the streets.

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Shutter, I want to thank you for your efforts over the last few years in establishing and running this website.  I, along with everyone else who was at the DZ Cooper thread, fully understand the problems and frustrations that you have been exposed to here.  You have always treated me fairly and honestly.

Nevertheless, I am now leaving this website and I will not be back.  Therefore, since your computer skills are vastly superior to mine, I ask that you remove my account and every post that I have made to this website.  Later this afternoon, I will try to log back on here and if my account remains then I will do everything I can to remove it.

And again, Shutter I thank you for your efforts over the years.
 

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« Reply #3088 on: September 03, 2018, 02:49:59 PM »
I'm sorry to hear this R99...removing all of your important data will be a damaging point to this forum..I guess if it has come to this point perhaps I should also consider shutting the whole thing down..

I will take some time to consider my options..in the mean time everyone else can also give there input as to what they believe should be done or what they intend to do..perhaps it's similar to the DZ and it's ran it's course, I don't know...

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« Reply #3089 on: September 03, 2018, 03:14:08 PM »
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Your friend FLYJACK/BULLJAX has just dubbed Meyer, G, and R99 the 'THREE STOOGES" - He implies that he and Shutter are working together!

In fact he basically says he and Shutter are withholding evidence from the forum on purpose.

Guess I will have no interest whatever in your conference or whatever it is.

This is what I have to deal with lately..I've never held anything back on this forum. I showed the documents in question in hopes that it would help resolve the bickering, instead I'm accused of holding things back? I'm not working with Flyjack, I'm not conversing with him on PM's or emails etc. I didn't even see this post until now. I'm rather set back at this accusation. it's similar to the other accusations late last night against me..

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