Not that I am aware of.  He is associated with Zirconium Technology Corp of Albany, aka Zirtec

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Only the FBI can prove it 100% and they aren't interested, but realistically maybe these old guys should be left alone in their waning years.. to have successfully pulled it off.

Left alone?  Not a chance.  Then why are we even here ?   Smoke them out, and identify them.. you've been teasing us with your guy for a year now... lets hear it... who is it ?  if you want a solve, maybe the FBI would cave to public pressure if there is public discussion and momentum on the perps.

I agree...the fact of them being old isn't a factor here...solving the crime is..the story about the plane has been around for years. it's even noted in the documentary with Lenard Nemoy...

The FBI would most likely detain him for a day or so, and the court system will probably give him probation at most..you do the crime you have to pay in some way..it wouldn't take him long to disappear again anyway..the media would hound him for sure..

Precisely Shutter...the media would hound him for sure, and the public pressure could build up whereby it'd become politically beneficial to take them/him down, and this is how to get the FBI/DOJ to prosecute... and this is why its such nonsense for FLYJACK to tease with it yet never disclose, claiming theyll never prosecute.  The status quo wouldnt apply here (FBI doing nothing), if the momentum and public knowledge is strong enough.

If Cooper jumped at 08:14 then he would have jumped right over BTG VOR (Battleground VORTAC, a Radio Navigation Tower) , as shown on the Flight Map.  This station shows up on 1965 USGS maps but not on later maps.

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This belongs in the Flight Path Thread ?

So you have digital data that McChord, NWA/Soderlind etal lacked?

Did the plane come to a stop, and all clocks stop, right over BTG VOR (Battleground VORTAC) ?

Every point (set of coordinates) on every search map ever published in the Cooper case, is a 'probability' = not a fixed linear coordinate error-free. Everything was in motion in multiple dimensions. The clock was running. Bailing over a fixed point on the Earth under these conditions is "impossible"! That is one reason why the earlier NWA search maps are Probability Maps.     

One source of time error may have been the reading of the FDR by Solderlind and his colleagues. Foil type FDR's and similar detectors were famously imprecise in the time dimension, due mainly to the slow rate of travel of the foil tape in the recorder. Multiple events can easily 'stack up' in a very small space on the recording tape making it difficult to recover individual events with any precision. In other words, resolution of data in the time dimension is sloppy on these old tape type records vs modern digital recorders. The Cooper hijacking in 71 spans the period when commercial aviation was moving from foil type FDR's to digital FDR's (if my facts are correct). This may mean that Soderlind had a difficult time separating the pressure spikes of interest in the time (or tape travel) dimension. That fact alone would make any representation of the data in graphic form a matter of probability, which of course is precisely what NWA stipulates for its 1972 LaCenter Quadrangle search map. In addition, Solderlind may not have even had McChord radar data to work with when he did his first evaluations. So, everything is problematic in the Time dimension of just when Cooper bailed and where that was in Earth coordinates. (All of the data used in that evaluation was analog and not digital).

In other words, jump point accuracy cannot be any more accurate than the FDR data that was used to distinguish it. It really is that simple.
 

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Does anyone think this guy looks like the suspect sketch? 

PS He is someone of interest due to his connection to the titanium industry, who lived in Portland, and had a motive and was a competitive downhill skier, thus a risk taker.  Also the right age (41), height (6ft), and build (athletic).  I think the hair, lower lip and chin look very close.  He has the same dark wavy slicked back hair as Dan Cooper in the comics, which I find interesting.  He was on the board of directors of a company that produced titanium products for Boeing Supersonic Transport and he was had been recently sued for $200,000 for stock fraud and was being investigated by the SEC at the time of the hijacking.  So he had a grudge, as he told the stewardess.  As for skydiving experience, I do not know for sure but he had a good friend who served in the Air Force and used to fly in friends private planes, so he could have done some skydiving with friends.  He was never a criminal, so the FBI would not have had his fingerprints and he would not have been someone that would have been an obvious suspect.

All of this belongs in the Suspects thread.

I dont see the similarity in facial types you see. Why is that? I have training in physical anthropology and medicine-anatomy ... whats the level of your concern? Would you be willing to submit these photos for facial recognition analysis, and pay for it!?

This is why most people with suspects almost immediately move to question the reliability of the FBI sketches, while simultaneously still wanting to claim a resemblance!  It might be better if people with suspects simply said "here is what DB Cooper really looked like" and drop making any comparison to the FBI sketches at all!    Its the only way to have your cake and eat it too.

Agreed. My dad even looked a little like DBC at one point, and he'd no more have jumped from a plane than flapped his arms and flown to the moon. Although - DOES anyone know what Fred Astaire was doing on Nov 24/17?

... Its the only way to have your cake and eat it too....

One of the linguistic idiodenic (spelling?) patterns that led to the capture of Ted Kaczynski is his use of the ancient form of this saying. He wrote: "Eat you cake and have it, too." Surprisingly, the linguistic experts involved in the case claimed (in the docu at least) that this is preferred form and makes more sense. For some reason, common parlance inverted the saying about 400 years ago.

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If Cooper jumped at 08:14 then he would have jumped right over BTG VOR (Battleground VORTAC, a Radio Navigation Tower) , as shown on the Flight Map.  This station shows up on 1965 USGS maps but not on later maps.

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This belongs in the Flight Path Thread ?

So you have digital data that McChord, NWA/Soderlind etal lacked?

Did the plane come to a stop, and all clocks stop, right over BTG VOR (Battleground VORTAC) ?

Every point (set of coordinates) on every search map ever published in the Cooper case, is a 'probability' = not a fixed linear coordinate error-free. Everything was in motion in multiple dimensions. The clock was running. Bailing over a fixed point on the Earth under these conditions is "impossible"! That is one reason why the earlier NWA search maps are Probability Maps.     

One source of time error may have been the reading of the FDR by Solderlind and his colleagues. Foil type FDR's and similar detectors were famously imprecise in the time dimension, due mainly to the slow rate of travel of the foil tape in the recorder. Multiple events can easily 'stack up' in a very small space on the recording tape making it difficult to recover individual events with any precision. In other words, resolution of data in the time dimension is sloppy on these old tape type records vs modern digital recorders. The Cooper hijacking in 71 spans the period when commercial aviation was moving from foil type FDR's to digital FDR's (if my facts are correct). This may mean that Soderlind had a difficult time separating the pressure spikes of interest in the time (or tape travel) dimension. That fact alone would make any representation of the data in graphic form a matter of probability, which of course is precisely what NWA stipulates for its 1972 LaCenter Quadrangle search map. In addition, Solderlind may not have even had McChord radar data to work with when he did his first evaluations. So, everything is problematic in the Time dimension of just when Cooper bailed and where that was in Earth coordinates. (All of the data used in that evaluation was analog and not digital).

In other words, jump point accuracy cannot be any more accurate than the FDR data that was used to distinguish it. It really is that simple.
 

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Does anyone think this guy looks like the suspect sketch? 

PS He is someone of interest due to his connection to the titanium industry, who lived in Portland, and had a motive and was a competitive downhill skier, thus a risk taker.  Also the right age (41), height (6ft), and build (athletic).  I think the hair, lower lip and chin look very close.  He has the same dark wavy slicked back hair as Dan Cooper in the comics, which I find interesting.  He was on the board of directors of a company that produced titanium products for Boeing Supersonic Transport and he was had been recently sued for $200,000 for stock fraud and was being investigated by the SEC at the time of the hijacking.  So he had a grudge, as he told the stewardess.  As for skydiving experience, I do not know for sure but he had a good friend who served in the Air Force and used to fly in friends private planes, so he could have done some skydiving with friends.  He was never a criminal, so the FBI would not have had his fingerprints and he would not have been someone that would have been an obvious suspect.

All of this belongs in the Suspects thread.

I dont see the similarity in facial types you see. Why is that? I have training in physical anthropology and medicine-anatomy ... whats the level of your concern? Would you be willing to submit these photos for facial recognition analysis, and pay for it!?

This is why most people with suspects almost immediately move to question the reliability of the FBI sketches, while simultaneously still wanting to claim a resemblance!  It might be better if people with suspects simply said "here is what DB Cooper really looked like" and drop making any comparison to the FBI sketches at all!    Its the only way to have your cake and eat it too.

Agreed. My dad even looked a little like DBC at one point, and he'd no more have jumped from a plane than flapped his arms and flown to the moon. Although - DOES anyone know what Fred Astaire was doing on Nov 24/17?

Ummmm?? Did you read beyond the first sentence?  I arrived at this suspect by looking at the profiles of about 100 former managers in the Titanium industry and this guy has the best profile, both from a physical description as well as personality and motive.

Of course, any FBI/Police sketch is not going to be accurate down to exact trigonometry of the face.  The sketch does provide a good general description.  For example we know he is not short, fat, bald, with big ears, etc.  I do not deal in Conspiracy Theories, and I am not hear to bash other peoples research.  I was under the impression this Forum was for sharing ideas and information, not pretending to be some expert.

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If Cooper jumped at 08:14 then he would have jumped right over BTG VOR (Battleground VORTAC, a Radio Navigation Tower) , as shown on the Flight Map.  This station shows up on 1965 USGS maps but not on later maps.

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This belongs in the Flight Path Thread ?

So you have digital data that McChord, NWA/Soderlind etal lacked?

Did the plane come to a stop, and all clocks stop, right over BTG VOR (Battleground VORTAC) ?

Every point (set of coordinates) on every search map ever published in the Cooper case, is a 'probability' = not a fixed linear coordinate error-free. Everything was in motion in multiple dimensions. The clock was running. Bailing over a fixed point on the Earth under these conditions is "impossible"! That is one reason why the earlier NWA search maps are Probability Maps.     

One source of time error may have been the reading of the FDR by Solderlind and his colleagues. Foil type FDR's and similar detectors were famously imprecise in the time dimension, due mainly to the slow rate of travel of the foil tape in the recorder. Multiple events can easily 'stack up' in a very small space on the recording tape making it difficult to recover individual events with any precision. In other words, resolution of data in the time dimension is sloppy on these old tape type records vs modern digital recorders. The Cooper hijacking in 71 spans the period when commercial aviation was moving from foil type FDR's to digital FDR's (if my facts are correct). This may mean that Soderlind had a difficult time separating the pressure spikes of interest in the time (or tape travel) dimension. That fact alone would make any representation of the data in graphic form a matter of probability, which of course is precisely what NWA stipulates for its 1972 LaCenter Quadrangle search map. In addition, Solderlind may not have even had McChord radar data to work with when he did his first evaluations. So, everything is problematic in the Time dimension of just when Cooper bailed and where that was in Earth coordinates. (All of the data used in that evaluation was analog and not digital).

In other words, jump point accuracy cannot be any more accurate than the FDR data that was used to distinguish it. It really is that simple.
 

Thanks for the tip on what tread to post in.  I am a newbie to this Forum.

My point, however, about the VOR was simply that I find it interesting that he jumped right near the VOR station if you believe the 8:13-8:14 jump time based on the pilot testimony about the pressure oscillation.  Maybe the skyjacker had some knowledge of the radar station location and used that as a reference point for his jump or landing?

OBVIOUSLY, I was not implying that the plane and time stopped or that I have information that others do not.  I was under the impression that this Forum was to share ideas and theories, not to try and espouse conspiracy theories and attack the research of others.  I am trying to present original ideas and suspects and get intelligent feedback.

And yes I realize that the flight path is not exact, but it seems that the FBI conclusion was that the plane followed Vector 23 and that the location times were at least close down to a minute or so and that the oscillation event was around 8:14

The fact that he jumped near Portland suggests to me that he was very familiar with the area.
Most criminals commit crimes near where they live, I think that is something every detective
is taught.  The copycat hijacker Richard McCoy jumped right near his home in Utah, for example.  So this is important because suspects who
lived in Portland at at the time would be at the top of the list.

It is my opinion that the money at Tina Bar was dropped into the river
many years after the hijacking so this also lends to the theory that the
hijacker lived in Portland.  It seems to me to be well established from
the scientific analysis of the money that it was not outdoors for almost
10 years based on the condition.