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all the passengers are suspect IMO..you don't know how much of there stories were fabricated, or skewed to get them involved. Mitchell always seems to have memory issue's when questions arise. since none of them knew what was going on, I find some of this hard to believe. it was a lot harder for them to recall since they had no reason to recall in the first place...

There is one FBI doc that basically says ' of all the passengers, only about 5 of them have anything to contribute'...

Then there are about 42 docs that mention or give passenger interviews, divided mainly among those 5 passengers. I have flagged those and will post as time allows.

Here is one description by Gregory - note date.

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If my two cents are worth much, the prior discussion on the various witness accounts is correct: different people saw the same events in a different light.

Mitchell's thoughts about Mucklow giving attention to Cooper I believe comes from two sources:

A. An interview in the Mountain News 12/7/14 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login): "Why aren’t they (the stewardesses) paying any attention to me? he wondered."

B. His interview with the WSHS  10/3/13 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
query=d%20b%20cooper&media=0&show=100&sort=title&page=1 but not sure if all the docs are still up): "flight attendant was paying all this attention to this geeky looking guy (Cooper) instead of talking to me."

As far as Gregory's seat, combing through all the FBI files (SE 164-81, 11/26/71), he believes it was "seat 18 which was an isle seat on the port (left) side." As pointed out here, that is not possible if Mitchell sat alone in the three seats on that side. His additional statement that he "noticed a man seated in a window seat on the starboard (right) side of the aircraft to his (GREGORY's) rear" for me rules out row 18. Thus, Gregory must have been in 17C or 16C.

Please correct me if my sources are in error.

I think you have it right.  Row 18 was the last row of seats with 18A, 18B, and 18C being on the left side of the cabin.  Mitchell, the college student, has stated that he was studying so he was sitting in one of those seats and probably had his book bag and books on one or both of the other seats.

Seats 18D, 18E, and 18F were on the right side of the cabin.  Cooper reportedly initially sat in seat 18D (the aisle seat) with his brief case on 18E.  After passing the hijack note to Flo, Cooper moved to 18E and moved his brief case to 18F.  Tina apparently sat in 18D for a period of time after that.

This was an off and on situation since Flo stayed in the cockpit most of the time after that and Tina would have to get up to pass Cooper's messages to Flo in the cockpit by using the interphone (intercom, or whatever you want to call it) that was located on the left side of the cabin and behind the 18A-B-C seats where Mitchell was seated.

The lavatory was located behind the 18D-E-F seats where Cooper and Tina were seated.  And Cooper spent most of his time in the lavatory after the plane landed at SEATAC.   

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If my two cents are worth much, the prior discussion on the various witness accounts is correct: different people saw the same events in a different light.

Mitchell's thoughts about Mucklow giving attention to Cooper I believe comes from two sources:

A. An interview in the Mountain News 12/7/14 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login): "Why aren’t they (the stewardesses) paying any attention to me? he wondered."

B. His interview with the WSHS  10/3/13 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
query=d%20b%20cooper&media=0&show=100&sort=title&page=1 but not sure if all the docs are still up): "flight attendant was paying all this attention to this geeky looking guy (Cooper) instead of talking to me."

As far as Gregory's seat, combing through all the FBI files (SE 164-81, 11/26/71), he believes it was "seat 18 which was an isle seat on the port (left) side." As pointed out here, that is not possible if Mitchell sat alone in the three seats on that side. His additional statement that he "noticed a man seated in a window seat on the starboard (right) side of the aircraft to his (GREGORY's) rear" for me rules out row 18. Thus, Gregory must have been in 17C or 16C.

Please correct me if my sources are in error.

I think you have it right.  Row 18 was the last row of seats with 18A, 18B, and 18C being on the left side of the cabin.  Mitchell, the college student, has stated that he was studying so he was sitting in one of those seats and probably had his book bag and books on one or both of the other seats.

Seats 18D, 18E, and 18F were on the right side of the cabin.  Cooper reportedly initially sat in seat 18D (the aisle seat) with his brief case on 18E.  After passing the hijack note to Flo, Cooper moved to 18E and moved his brief case to 18F.  Tina apparently sat in 18D for a period of time after that.

This was an off and on situation since Flo stayed in the cockpit most of the time after that and Tina would have to get up to pass Cooper's messages to Flo in the cockpit by using the interphone (intercom, or whatever you want to call it) that was located on the left side of the cabin and behind the 18A-B-C seats where Mitchell was seated.

The lavatory was located behind the 18D-E-F seats where Cooper and Tina were seated.  And Cooper spent most of his time in the lavatory after the plane landed at SEATAC.   

Ok, now dont take this personally but .... passngr report TJC-FOIA-FBI-Section-2-294-Pages-11-28-71-to-11-30-71-137 ... "and he remained there for about one minute .........."  third paragraph.

This is exactly what I am talking about. Variance in the maldum fornax. And the next witnesses ( incl Mucklow) give a different account! And when you combine all of the accounts you begin to get a consensus on major facts. You begin to get a feel for the elephant. It may even be an elephant! I love it!