...Question: was a brief case, or part of a brief case,  found at Tena Bar or not?

Dorwin Schreuder is the source of this when Dorwin spoke with Bruce on one occasion...

Okay, so you're asking me if DBC's brief case, or parts thereof, was found at T-Bar. The answer is, "I don't know." Additionally, I don't know if anyone else knows, either.

Yes, Dorwin is the source of the briefcase information. Yes, he told me in our first major interview. Yes, he characterized his comments as possibly being the result of a hazy memory, of a "senior moment."

However, Dorwin never presented any signs of cognitive impairment to me when I spoke with him - not in 2009 when we first spoke, nor in subsequent conversations. In fact, Dorwin has been particularly lucid and forthcoming. Further, Dorwin is the most forthright, honest, and talkative FBI agent I have ever spoken with. In addition he is a very nice guy and has invited me to visit him and his family in Montana and go skiing with him.

So, taken in totality, I consider Dorwin's comments about the briefcase as an "outlier." Possibly true, probably not. The bigger question is what to do with tidbits and pieces of information that are outliers. There are plenty in Norjak. I say they should be considered and commented upon - and not discarded or discounted simply because they can't be confirmed at present.

Another Dorwin outlier is the commentary you have shared here about the plume trail of shards "that even a blind man could follow" that spewed forth towards upstream for something like 60 feet. What do we do with that information? No one else reported it and it seems outrageous, so do we discard it? Further, do we reject all of Dorwin's recollections? Or do we weigh them and wait for more corroboration? I say we do the latter.

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...Question: was a brief case, or part of a brief case,  found at Tena Bar or not?

Dorwin Schreuder is the source of this when Dorwin spoke with Bruce on one occasion...

Okay, so you're asking me if DBC's brief case, or parts thereof, was found at T-Bar. The answer is, "I don't know." Additionally, I don't know if anyone else knows, either.

Yes, Dorwin is the source of the briefcase information. Yes, he told me in our first major interview. Yes, he characterized his comments as possibly being the result of a hazy memory, of a "senior moment."

However, Dorwin never presented any signs of cognitive impairment to me when I spoke with him - not in 2009 when we first spoke, nor in subsequent conversations. In fact, Dorwin has been particularly lucid and forthcoming. Further, Dorwin is the most forthright, honest, and talkative FBI agent I have ever spoken with. In addition he is a very nice guy and has invited me to visit him and his family in Montana and go skiing with him.

So, taken in totality, I consider Dorwin's comments about the briefcase as an "outlier." Possibly true, probably not. The bigger question is what to do with tidbits and pieces of information that are outliers. There are plenty in Norjak. I say they should be considered and commented upon - and not discarded or discounted simply because they can't be confirmed at present.

Another Dorwin outlier is the commentary you have shared here about the plume trail of shards "that even a blind man could follow" that spewed forth towards upstream for something like 60 feet. What do we do with that information? No one else reported it and it seems outrageous, so do we discard it? Further, do we reject all of Dorwin's recollections? Or do we weigh them and wait for more corroboration? I say we do the latter.

Further, do we reject all of Dorwin's recollections? Or do we weigh them and wait for more corroboration? I say we do the latter.

I can settle for that.

You were first to interview Dorwin. Dorwin told me that when you called it caught him by surprise - it was the first time he had thought about or tried to recall anything about the excavation at Tina Bar, in years. He basically said he was trying to gather his wits and memories in response to your questions. He said 'I made a mistake even bringing the word 'briefcase' up! I was trying to recall what we did and why. We didn't know what to expect or what we would find. Someone called and told me what we should be looking for and top on the list was anything biological (Cooper anatomy!), the briefcase and the bomb Cooper had, his parachute (parts of a parachute), and any money - so we started our canvas of the area. We found a few more pieces of money just under the surface leading south (of the Ingram find), and we backed up and I said "we should mark this area off like an archaeologist would do"... and we did. The figure "66" stands out in my mind. I think that is the number of yards we walked and then placed a stake because no more money fragments were turning up, then we went back (north of the Ingram find) and started to mark out a grid ... I wish to God now I hadn't said anything to that guy about finding a briefcase. I was just trying to think of the things we were told to look for.'

I have since talked to Dorwin 20+ times. We discuss a lot of things.
     

Ah, the Ariel BBQ, the gift that keeps on giving.

As I recall the events and conversations of that time, I remember saying that although I was not welcome at the Ariel BBQ, I had in fact received two written invitations from Bryan Woodruff to attend. You asked me to give you the emails, but I only had hard copies with me and refused to surrender my only copies. I'm not sure how that has morphed into a deception for you.

I was content to not go to the BBQ, and in fact suggested that I spend my afternoon at the Lewis River Bed and Breakfast in Woodland while you went off to the BBQ, which is what occurred. I don't seeing any lying here, nor do I have anything to apologize for.

As for staying away from you, I am happy to comply with your request.

Shutter wrote: "...lets try to get along and focus on what this site is designed for, which is not a repeat of the DZ."

AMEN brother.

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Well, I'll get us back on topic...

Jo sent me an email, and posted on my website, that she's been vindicated about Cooper's shoes. She mentioned they were in the FBI documents recently released (I assume from Colbert's FOIA cache). I guess it means a witness other than Tina also mentioned Cooper's shoes. I haven't read through all the papers yet, does anyone know what she's talking about?

Jo is now claiming Duane was connected to Tektronix.

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Ah, the Ariel BBQ, the gift that keeps on giving.

As I recall the events and conversations of that time, I remember saying that although I was not welcome at the Ariel BBQ, I had in fact received two written invitations from Bryan Woodruff to attend. You asked me to give you the emails, but I only had hard copies with me and refused to surrender my only copies. I'm not sure how that has morphed into a deception for you.

I was content to not go to the BBQ, and in fact suggested that I spend my afternoon at the Lewis River Bed and Breakfast in Woodland while you went off to the BBQ, which is what occurred. I don't seeing any lying here, nor do I have anything to apologize for.

As for staying away from you, I am happy to comply with your request.

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Yeah right, Bruce.