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The tickets are separate from the envelops or holders.. you are confusing them.

I found NW Orient tickets from 1968-1982 that had that name box on the cover, and different airlines used the same type of ticket. (with different airline printed)

Mitchell showed us what his mother had saved from that night. He had the envelope and the copy of the ticket.

Also, the ticket that Mitchell showed me look like they are fed through a type set machine that types out some of the info on the ticket. If I remember correctly from pre-computer days, these tickets would be on a roll that would feed along a pinned bracket inside of a printer. If a cover is attached, how is it fed through?

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One thing I find interesting about the ticket is the 'P' in the time field.  Most people, myself included (as you can see by my name I write a lot of 'P's) start the P at the top of the vertical stroke, go down and then back to the top, either by lifting off the paper or not, then forming the loop.  The one in the time field appears to start at the bottom of the loop instead.  The one in Cooper may follow this style, hard to tell.  The experts have probably covered this.

... P ...

Cooper was Babylonian.

Born in Arizona.

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On Etsy they are selling a Late 70's ticket holder: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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The tickets are separate from the envelops or holders.. you are confusing them.

I found NW Orient tickets from 1968-1982 that had that name box on the cover, and different airlines used the same type of ticket. (with different airline printed)

Mitchell showed us what his mother had saved from that night. He had the envelope and the copy of the ticket.

Also, the ticket that Mitchell showed me look like they are fed through a type set machine that types out some of the info on the ticket. If I remember correctly from pre-computer days, these tickets would be on a roll that would feed along a pinned bracket inside of a printer. If a cover is attached, how is it fed through?

Based on my personal experience with quite a few different airlines, the format for all (or at least most) airlines was an airline industry standard.  The tickets for domestic travel (within the USA) may have had different numbers of "legs" depending on the number of plane changes in the original ticket.  But the basic ticket format was an industry standards for reporting accounting information, etc..

The tickets were not in a roll, but in a linear type container.  The imprinted information in the upper right hand corner of the tickets was put there by a stamping machine that the ticket agents operated.  This was not a "printer" type operation but a "hammer" type activity.  The imprinted information is what actually validated your ticket.

What we are discussing here in the Cooper case involves two separate individuals who, minutes apart, walked up to apparently separate ticket agents, at the same counter, and purchased simple one-way tickets from Portland to Seattle.  This is exceptionally straight forward and there is nothing suspicious about it.

The ticket above for "Ward", I think it is, indicates that a round trip ticket was purchased but that neither the date out or back had been set.  The information in the lower right hand corner is a credit or charge card of one kind or another.  The imprint in the upper right hand corner appears to be dated July 14, 1982 and the imprint was probably applied in Dallas, Texas although the word "Dallas" is not readily visible.

There are quite a few variations in how tickets could be obtained and validated but, again, they have absolutely nothing to do with the Cooper case.     

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The tickets are separate from the envelops or holders.. you are confusing them.

I found NW Orient tickets from 1968-1982 that had that name box on the cover, and different airlines used the same type of ticket. (with different airline printed)

Mitchell showed us what his mother had saved from that night. He had the envelope and the copy of the ticket.

Also, the ticket that Mitchell showed me look like they are fed through a type set machine that types out some of the info on the ticket. If I remember correctly from pre-computer days, these tickets would be on a roll that would feed along a pinned bracket inside of a printer. If a cover is attached, how is it fed through?

maybe a ticket was printed out or stamped by a machine and put in a cover by the agent then handed the customer?

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On Etsy they are selling a Late 70's ticket holder: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

1960's Northwest Orient Airlines Ticket Holder: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

The tickets are separate from the envelops or holders.. you are confusing them.

I found NW Orient tickets from 1968-1982 that had that name box on the cover, and different airlines used the same type of ticket. (with different airline printed)

Mitchell showed us what his mother had saved from that night. He had the envelope and the copy of the ticket.

Also, the ticket that Mitchell showed me look like they are fed through a type set machine that types out some of the info on the ticket. If I remember correctly from pre-computer days, these tickets would be on a roll that would feed along a pinned bracket inside of a printer. If a cover is attached, how is it fed through?

but, again, they have absolutely nothing to do with the Cooper case.     

Wrong, these sample tickets give us ticket process and physical properties..

I found a Northwest Orient ticket from 1974 that has the "name box" on the front page filled out and passed through to the red carbon. The writing is clearly different from the agents.

That means a customer can fill out the name only on the front of Northwest Orient tickets instead of the agent writing it inside with the other info.

It doesn't tell us whether the hijacker did or not, but if it is possible. Colbert claims the Cooper clerk later admitted that they do sometimes have the customer fill out the name.

I am still not convinced tho.

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1960's Northwest Orient Airlines Ticket Holder: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

The tickets are separate from the envelops or holders.. you are confusing them.

I found NW Orient tickets from 1968-1982 that had that name box on the cover, and different airlines used the same type of ticket. (with different airline printed)

Mitchell showed us what his mother had saved from that night. He had the envelope and the copy of the ticket.

Also, the ticket that Mitchell showed me look like they are fed through a type set machine that types out some of the info on the ticket. If I remember correctly from pre-computer days, these tickets would be on a roll that would feed along a pinned bracket inside of a printer. If a cover is attached, how is it fed through?

but, again, they have absolutely nothing to do with the Cooper case.     

Wrong, these sample tickets give us ticket process and physical properties..

I found a Northwest Orient ticket from 1974 that has the "name box" on the front page filled out and passed through to the red carbon. The writing is clearly different from the agents.

That means a customer can fill out the name only on the front of Northwest Orient tickets instead of the agent writing it inside with the other info.

It doesn't tell us whether the hijacker did or not, but if it is possible. Colbert claims the Cooper clerk later admitted that they do sometimes have the customer fill out the name.

I am still not convinced tho.

FLYJACK, your severe editing of the previous comments on this post has you attributing the remark, "but, again, they have absolutely nothing to do with the Cooper case." to Vicki.  I made that remark and you have also taken it completely out of context.  What was being said, both by Vicki and myself, is not clear at all.  Please be more careful in the future to keeping things in the proper context.

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Here are a few items I found searching Google:

On Etsy they are selling a Late 70's ticket holder: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

1960's Northwest Orient Airlines Ticket Holder: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

The tickets are separate from the envelops or holders.. you are confusing them.

I found NW Orient tickets from 1968-1982 that had that name box on the cover, and different airlines used the same type of ticket. (with different airline printed)

Mitchell showed us what his mother had saved from that night. He had the envelope and the copy of the ticket.

Also, the ticket that Mitchell showed me look like they are fed through a type set machine that types out some of the info on the ticket. If I remember correctly from pre-computer days, these tickets would be on a roll that would feed along a pinned bracket inside of a printer. If a cover is attached, how is it fed through?

but, again, they have absolutely nothing to do with the Cooper case.     

Wrong, these sample tickets give us ticket process and physical properties..

I found a Northwest Orient ticket from 1974 that has the "name box" on the front page filled out and passed through to the red carbon. The writing is clearly different from the agents.

That means a customer can fill out the name only on the front of Northwest Orient tickets instead of the agent writing it inside with the other info.

It doesn't tell us whether the hijacker did or not, but if it is possible. Colbert claims the Cooper clerk later admitted that they do sometimes have the customer fill out the name.

I am still not convinced tho.

Hal Williams processed Cooper's ticket. What was William's testimony? I think Carr (and others? WSHM people?) talked to Williams?

It does not mattrer what others do/did, it only matters what Hal Williams says he did.

Is Williams still alive?  Here is an old article about Hal Williams. Was he at the ticket counter or at the gate? These days with the security checkpoints they are two separate locations within the airport. In 1971 a ticket counter agent (where you purchase a ticket) and a gate agent could be the same.

In the article Williams says, "The composite drawings never did look just like him. The chin was a bit thin and the hair was not quite right." This is very similar to what Bill Mitchell said to me in an email, "I had always thought the composite drawing had his face to thin".

I attached the Hal Williams article and the first composite drawing based on the description given my Hal Williams. I found the sketch on a post made by Sluggo Monster on the DZ.