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Aren't these the seats Cooper sat in?

Yep, I thought I had that one in there. I only put one in the "evidence" section of a different angle.

I have the whole package of photos if you want them - will have to find the file...

Sure, I want to get as many as possible so we have them at a moments notice. any newspaper clips, plane, evidence, money etc. what ever we can use to document everything.

OK, hopfully tomorrow. Also note those head rest towels! Were these collected and sent to Quantico? A forensic goldmine.

 

No rush, I'm slowly building the gallery. they should of taken the towels. they removed the seats.....

I wonder if Tom knows? 

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Aren't these the seats Cooper sat in?

Yep, I thought I had that one in there. I only put one in the "evidence" section of a different angle.

I have the whole package of photos if you want them - will have to find the file...

Something strikes me as Im looking at that photo - the head rest towels! OMG!  A forensic goldmine! What happened to those towels? Did they go to Quantico?

I asked Ayn Dietrich and she dodged the question.

I listened again to the interview with Larry Carr, and he said the seats were taken out and sent to Quantico. I'm wondering why they took the whole seat out. what kind of test could they do back then. how often did they change those head liners? unless there was a stain on the seat wouldn't you just use tape like they do with prints?

Back in that period that would have gone over everything with UV light and tape, looked for prints, and do particle and fibre analysis. Many lab reports would follow.  They would still have that archive of evidence for further analysis.

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I listened again to the interview with Larry Carr, and he said the seats were taken out and sent to Quantico. I'm wondering why they took the whole seat out. what kind of test could they do back then. how often did they change those head liners? unless there was a stain on the seat wouldn't you just use tape like they do with prints?

Back in that period that would have gone over everything with UV light and tape, looked for prints, and do particle and fibre analysis. Many lab reports would follow.  They would still have that archive of evidence for further analysis.

I would guess a lot of cross contamination would occur since other's sat in the seat prior to Cooper?

For sure but just think of the bag of "goodies" one gets to play with! Independent verification of metal particles Tom found? Just think of the possibilities ....

Somebody was smart to remove the seats completely and send the whole package to Quantico. That creates an archive for future work!
 

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I listened again to the interview with Larry Carr, and he said the seats were taken out and sent to Quantico. I'm wondering why they took the whole seat out. what kind of test could they do back then. how often did they change those head liners? unless there was a stain on the seat wouldn't you just use tape like they do with prints?

Back in that period that would have gone over everything with UV light and tape, looked for prints, and do particle and fibre analysis. Many lab reports would follow.  They would still have that archive of evidence for further analysis.

I would guess a lot of cross contamination would occur since other's sat in the seat prior to Cooper?

For sure but just think of the bag of "goodies" one gets to play with! Independent verification of metal particles Tom found? Just think of the possibilities ....

all of the metal particles didn't come from the tie only?

I think Tom's particles all came from the tie. Should check his site to confirm.

He left his tie ON the seat. Actually sort of in-between seats if I recall correctly. But he was up and down, bent over, sat is, moved around in, many motions in and around and over those seats not to mention contact with the seats and headrest towels. "The seat of the crime", as it were.

Cooper's leaving that tie is a paradox to me. Even in 1971 if he was technically savvy at all, wouldn't he know he was leaving personal evidence behind? Or be concerned he might be? Something about the tie has never set right with me
if he was technically savvy and the consummate planner many contend. Unless his destination was going to put him out of reach. Say Cuba?

I read when the were scrapping 305, they asked if anyone wanted the seats, nobody did. the only thing I've seen was the wheel from the cockpit. the owner of the scrapyard took the registration plate. I think the rest is history. imagine if you kept the stairs? wonder what that would go for at auction?

Those would have been different seats? Not the seats Cooper occupied.

Interesting article.....

"Hot tips from crackpots

And then there were the funny ones — the tips called in by self-described psychics and paranormal investigators, and by straight-up nutters and swindlers. Himmelsbach remembers one who built a black box covered with dials and switches, which he claimed functioned as a sort of mechanical bloodhound (quite what the advantage was in a bloodhound with no legs and, as soon became obvious, a non-functioning nose, was never made clear). Another got Himmelsbach’s attention by claiming to be skilled in water-witching, but subsequently rang the loony bell good and loud by revealing that he did his water-witch dousing over a topo map on his coffee table before going out to a scene to dig."


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