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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #240 on: January 09, 2017, 01:37:55 PM »
Sheridan was a VERY experienced jumper. All kinds of jumps, all kinds of gear. He has jumped many times into wilderness areas with attached payloads as a smoke jumper. As a result of his daring batwing experiments he would have been very familiar with asymmetric drag and instability issues. Had he been DB Cooper I think it is HIGHLY unlikely that he would have lost the money during the jump. He would have rigged a currency carrier that would have stayed attached to him.

I have met Sheridan. He has literally the bluest eyes you will ever see, strikingly blue. Nobody would ever mistake them for another color. Might he have been DBC and worn brown contacts? Sure, it's possible, but a long shot.

At 90 he looks very good and still has a sharp mind with an amazing memory for long ago details. He is a voracious reader and is very current on world affairs. I enjoyed talking with him about politics, sport jumping in Saigon, and his experiences in Vietnam, Nepal, Japan and China. We even talked about his stint as an elevator operator in the Seattle Space needle. We had an interesting discussion about Hitler's rise as he was reading They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer. He doesn't just read a book, he annotates it extensively.

Could Sheridan Peterson have been DB Cooper? Sure, it's possible, he certainly had the skills, but there are a number of facts that argue against it. Skill wise he is the PERFECT DB Cooper and he as much as admitted that on the HC interview. "Everything pointed at me... EVERYTHING!" But if he were DB Cooper would he have volunteered a DNA sample? I doubt it.

To be clear, Sheridan denies being DB Cooper. He appeared coy about in on the (edited) History Channel interview but he isn't coy about it in person. If he was DB Cooper the secret will die with him. There will be no death bed confession, no revealing part 2 of his book. That's my prediction.

I'd be happy to look half as good and be half as sharp as he is when I turn 90.

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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #241 on: January 09, 2017, 02:23:39 PM »
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Sheridan was a VERY experienced jumper. All kinds of jumps, all kinds of gear. He has jumped many times into wilderness areas with attached payloads as a smoke jumper. As a result of his daring batwing experiments he would have been very familiar with asymmetric drag and instability issues. Had he been DB Cooper I think it is HIGHLY unlikely that he would have lost the money during the jump. He would have rigged a currency carrier that would have stayed attached to him.

I have met Sheridan. He has literally the bluest eyes you will ever see, strikingly blue. Nobody would ever mistake them for another color. Might he have been DBC and worn brown contacts? Sure, it's possible, but a long shot.

At 90 he looks very good and still has a sharp mind with an amazing memory for long ago details. He is a voracious reader and is very current on world affairs. I enjoyed talking with him about politics, sport jumping in Saigon, and his experiences in Vietnam, Nepal, Japan and China. We even talked about his stint as an elevator operator in the Seattle Space needle. We had an interesting discussion about Hitler's rise as he was reading They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer. He doesn't just read a book, he annotates it extensively.

Could Sheridan Peterson have been DB Cooper? Sure, it's possible, he certainly had the skills, but there are a number of facts that argue against it. Skill wise he is the PERFECT DB Cooper and he as much as admitted that on the HC interview. "Everything pointed at me... EVERYTHING!" But if he were DB Cooper would he have volunteered a DNA sample? I doubt it.

To be clear, Sheridan denies being DB Cooper. He appeared coy about in on the (edited) History Channel interview but he isn't coy about it in person. If he was DB Cooper the secret will die with him. There will be no death bed confession, no revealing part 2 of his book. That's my prediction.

I'd be happy to look half as good and be half as sharp as he is when I turn 90.

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What gets me about some of these *extreme sports guys, and Sheridan is an example along with Teddy and Rackstraw, is they have an *ego affectation where they don't mind bullshitting or 'flirting' with the idea they could have been DB Cooper ... but when things get serious they back off as if from a hard landing!

Such is the world of human ego eccentricity and it clusters around *extreme sports personalities! People at Dropzone, if you recall, even trace it to a gene.  :))  Contrast that with Himmelsbach's appraisal which was bullshit on the other extreme of the spectrum.
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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #242 on: January 09, 2017, 02:49:05 PM »
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Sheridan was a VERY experienced jumper. All kinds of jumps, all kinds of gear. He has jumped many times into wilderness areas with attached payloads as a smoke jumper. As a result of his daring batwing experiments he would have been very familiar with asymmetric drag and instability issues. Had he been DB Cooper I think it is HIGHLY unlikely that he would have lost the money during the jump. He would have rigged a currency carrier that would have stayed attached to him.

I have met Sheridan. He has literally the bluest eyes you will ever see, strikingly blue. Nobody would ever mistake them for another color. Might he have been DBC and worn brown contacts? Sure, it's possible, but a long shot.

At 90 he looks very good and still has a sharp mind with an amazing memory for long ago details. He is a voracious reader and is very current on world affairs. I enjoyed talking with him about politics, sport jumping in Saigon, and his experiences in Vietnam, Nepal, Japan and China. We even talked about his stint as an elevator operator in the Seattle Space needle. We had an interesting discussion about Hitler's rise as he was reading They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer. He doesn't just read a book, he annotates it extensively.

Could Sheridan Peterson have been DB Cooper? Sure, it's possible, he certainly had the skills, but there are a number of facts that argue against it. Skill wise he is the PERFECT DB Cooper and he as much as admitted that on the HC interview. "Everything pointed at me... EVERYTHING!" But if he were DB Cooper would he have volunteered a DNA sample? I doubt it.

To be clear, Sheridan denies being DB Cooper. He appeared coy about in on the (edited) History Channel interview but he isn't coy about it in person. If he was DB Cooper the secret will die with him. There will be no death bed confession, no revealing part 2 of his book. That's my prediction.

I'd be happy to look half as good and be half as sharp as he is when I turn 90.

377

What gets me about some of these *extreme sports guys, and Sheridan is an example along with Teddy and Rackstraw, is they have an *ego affectation where they don't mind bullshitting or 'flirting' with the idea they could have been DB Cooper ... but when things get serious they back off as if from a hard landing!

Such is the world of human ego eccentricity and it clusters around *extreme sports personalities! People at Dropzone, if you recall, even trace it to a gene.  :))  Contrast that with Himmelsbach's appraisal which was bullshit on the other extreme of the spectrum.

Georger,

For whatever it is worth, I have been tested for the gene in question - the Warrior Gene - and I have it.  Below is the explanation of what the DNA people claims it means.

"Studies have linked the 'Warrior Gene' to increased risk-taking behavior and the ability to better access chances of success in critical situations."

So it has a bad point and a good point as well.  I don't view myself as being a reckless risk-taker.  Instead, any risk-taking I do is carefully "calculated risk" taking.

I think there is some truth to the "ability to better access chances of success in critical situations."  I thinks this boils down to "don't panic and keep cool" when your bacon is in the fire.
 

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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #243 on: January 09, 2017, 05:26:01 PM »
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Sheridan was a VERY experienced jumper. All kinds of jumps, all kinds of gear. He has jumped many times into wilderness areas with attached payloads as a smoke jumper. As a result of his daring batwing experiments he would have been very familiar with asymmetric drag and instability issues. Had he been DB Cooper I think it is HIGHLY unlikely that he would have lost the money during the jump. He would have rigged a currency carrier that would have stayed attached to him.

I have met Sheridan. He has literally the bluest eyes you will ever see, strikingly blue. Nobody would ever mistake them for another color. Might he have been DBC and worn brown contacts? Sure, it's possible, but a long shot.

At 90 he looks very good and still has a sharp mind with an amazing memory for long ago details. He is a voracious reader and is very current on world affairs. I enjoyed talking with him about politics, sport jumping in Saigon, and his experiences in Vietnam, Nepal, Japan and China. We even talked about his stint as an elevator operator in the Seattle Space needle. We had an interesting discussion about Hitler's rise as he was reading They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer. He doesn't just read a book, he annotates it extensively.

Could Sheridan Peterson have been DB Cooper? Sure, it's possible, he certainly had the skills, but there are a number of facts that argue against it. Skill wise he is the PERFECT DB Cooper and he as much as admitted that on the HC interview. "Everything pointed at me... EVERYTHING!" But if he were DB Cooper would he have volunteered a DNA sample? I doubt it.

To be clear, Sheridan denies being DB Cooper. He appeared coy about in on the (edited) History Channel interview but he isn't coy about it in person. If he was DB Cooper the secret will die with him. There will be no death bed confession, no revealing part 2 of his book. That's my prediction.

I'd be happy to look half as good and be half as sharp as he is when I turn 90.

377

What gets me about some of these *extreme sports guys, and Sheridan is an example along with Teddy and Rackstraw, is they have an *ego affectation where they don't mind bullshitting or 'flirting' with the idea they could have been DB Cooper ... but when things get serious they back off as if from a hard landing!

Such is the world of human ego eccentricity and it clusters around *extreme sports personalities! People at Dropzone, if you recall, even trace it to a gene.  :))  Contrast that with Himmelsbach's appraisal which was bullshit on the other extreme of the spectrum.

Sheridan in person isn't a braggart, far from it. He is consistently modest and self effacing.
Just about any old skydiver would be flattered to be considered a DBC suspect.
Can't blame an old school hard core jumper from joking or flirting about it during a TV interview.
He never seriously holds himself out as DBC.
I was kinda disappointed the FBI didn't interview me.
Many jumpers I knew in 1971 claimed to have been contacted by the FBI.
I bet 95% of them were BS ing.
Back then it was kind of a "wink wink" badge of honor among skydivers to be a viable DBC suspect.

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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #244 on: December 18, 2017, 06:48:40 AM »
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Sheridan was a VERY experienced jumper. All kinds of jumps, all kinds of gear. He has jumped many times into wilderness areas with attached payloads as a smoke jumper. As a result of his daring batwing experiments he would have been very familiar with asymmetric drag and instability issues. Had he been DB Cooper I think it is HIGHLY unlikely that he would have lost the money during the jump. He would have rigged a currency carrier that would have stayed attached to him.

I have met Sheridan. He has literally the bluest eyes you will ever see, strikingly blue. Nobody would ever mistake them for another color. Might he have been DBC and worn brown contacts? Sure, it's possible, but a long shot.

At 90 he looks very good and still has a sharp mind with an amazing memory for long ago details. He is a voracious reader and is very current on world affairs. I enjoyed talking with him about politics, sport jumping in Saigon, and his experiences in Vietnam, Nepal, Japan and China. We even talked about his stint as an elevator operator in the Seattle Space needle. We had an interesting discussion about Hitler's rise as he was reading They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer. He doesn't just read a book, he annotates it extensively.

Could Sheridan Peterson have been DB Cooper? Sure, it's possible, he certainly had the skills, but there are a number of facts that argue against it. Skill wise he is the PERFECT DB Cooper and he as much as admitted that on the HC interview. "Everything pointed at me... EVERYTHING!" But if he were DB Cooper would he have volunteered a DNA sample? I doubt it.

To be clear, Sheridan denies being DB Cooper. He appeared coy about in on the (edited) History Channel interview but he isn't coy about it in person. If he was DB Cooper the secret will die with him. There will be no death bed confession, no revealing part 2 of his book. That's my prediction.

I'd be happy to look half as good and be half as sharp as he is when I turn 90.

377

Hi, sorry to be replying so late to this post, but I found this in my meanderings. I believe Sheridan was a Bubbleator operator at the Seattle World's Fair. Is this him at 58 seconds in the video attached? I believe it is mainly because the voice matches the voice in the History interview - it's the way he pronounces "ere" - "rear", "sphere". If it is him, based on earlier, balder photos, he would pretty much have to wearing a rug here. Not that that would make him DBC. :)     
 

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Re: Book Discussion About DB Cooper
« Reply #245 on: December 31, 2017, 02:01:34 PM »
For Christmas I received as gifts The Real McCoy, and The Last Master Outlaw. Right now I am reading The Real McCoy. It's a good book so far, and you can see why he was considered a Cooper suspect. I know that there will be people that will say that he was to young, but he does look much older than his age, and does resemble the Cooper sketch.
 

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« Reply #246 on: December 31, 2017, 02:09:52 PM »
I just wanted to say that after I read the 2 books that I have I will get your book Bruce. One thing I wonder is everyone on the forum overthinking some of the Cooper case, I don't mean that as an insult, but sometimes your not going to be able to explain every fact or piece of evidence.
 

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« Reply #247 on: December 31, 2017, 02:24:28 PM »
It's not a point of explaining evidence as much as it is proving it...

McCoy's photo was shown to the crew. they all agreed it wasn't him. now, you want to use makeup to cover McCoy? this was the 70's, not today. toupee's and makeup were not easily done without being noticed. McCoy put makeup on to erase his appearance from when he boarded the plane. I don't see a lot of similarities between the two..they claim a lot of them, but have never proven any of them.

McCoy did the hijacking soon after Cooper, so the minds were still fresh..what kind of makeup would completely change McCoy's face without the use of hair? (mustache, beard etc.) and NOT be noticed?
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« Reply #248 on: December 31, 2017, 02:34:00 PM »
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It's not a point of explaining evidence as much as it is proving it...

McCoy's photo was shown to the crew. they all agreed it wasn't him. now, you want to use makeup to cover McCoy? this was the 70's, not today. toupee's and makeup were not easily done without being noticed. McCoy put makeup on to erase his appearance from when he boarded the plane. I don't see a lot of similarities between the two..they claim a lot of them, but have never proven any of them.

McCoy did the hijacking soon after Cooper, so the minds were still fresh..what kind of makeup would completely change McCoy's face without the use of hair? (mustache, beard etc.) and NOT be noticed?
I do see a lot of similarities between them. I am through the book yet on McCoy yet, from what I have read so far a friend, and a sister screwed things up for him when he was caught. He would have had to have different people helping him if he did the Cooper hijacking.
 

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« Reply #249 on: December 31, 2017, 03:01:51 PM »
what similarities?

This still needs to be answered?

McCoy did the hijacking soon after Cooper, so the minds were still fresh..what kind of makeup would completely change McCoy's face without the use of hair? (mustache, beard etc.) and NOT be noticed?

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« Reply #250 on: December 31, 2017, 03:27:45 PM »
From the FBI...

The night dragged on with no new leads being developed. Within a few hours, though, area residents woke up to news of the hijacking. The Salt Lake City Office of the FBI received a telephone call before noon from a concerned citizen who said an acquaintance had outlined a “foolproof” plan for hijacking an airplane. The acquaintance, Richard Floyd McCoy, Jr., was a Vietnam veteran, a helicopter pilot, and an avid and capable skydiver. McCoy, 29, was reportedly a member of the Utah Air National Guard and a Police Science Major at Brigham Young University. In addition, McCoy was generally known to be having serious financial problems.

Meanwhile, the FBI Laboratory had been busy with evidence already received. A handwriting expert compared the note found on the plane with McCoy’s writing on military service records and determined that McCoy had written the note. Fingerprint specialists discovered that a latent print on the “Mainliner Magazine” found in the seat next to the hijackers’s matched a print taken from McCoy during his service year.

The hijacker opened his luggage and covered the peephole between the cockpit and cabin. Observed by Second Officer Floyd Smith (fictitious name) through a slight space under the cockpit door, the hijacker quickly put on a jumpsuit, helmet, and parachute. Once he had shut off the cabin lights to better view the ground, the gunman demanded to be kept abreast of wind, ground, and air speeds; altimeter settings; and sky conditions.

I believe it was a police officer McCoy knew that gave him away...also, it appears his prints were found on the plane. I'm sure the FBI checked those against the prints found on 305. McCoy even covered the peephole on the cabin door leading to the cockpit. he brought his own chute & gear. McCoy also showed his experience of being a pilot by acting as the co-pilot with constant updates.

NONE, of the evidence from that book as been verified by anyone. McCoy's letters were typed except the one he forgot to retrieve from the stewardess that really did him in. one of Cooper's requests before takeoff was that the cabin light stay off.
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« Reply #251 on: December 31, 2017, 03:44:37 PM »
when you compare McCoy to the composite certain features match & others don't..the ears are sticking out with McCoy, his nose is much wider, and his eyebrows are rounded and look like half of them were cut off. something rather noticeable between the two if you were giving a description..makeup couldn't cover this...
 

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« Reply #252 on: December 31, 2017, 04:00:13 PM »
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when you compare McCoy to the composite certain features match & others don't..the ears are sticking out with McCoy, his nose is much wider, and his eyebrows are rounded and look like half of them were cut off. something rather noticeable between the two if you were giving a description..makeup couldn't cover this...

Im sure some wanted McCoy to be Cooper but alas, you cant drive a square peg into a smaller round hole. 
 

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« Reply #253 on: December 31, 2017, 08:35:51 PM »
If you don't think that McCoy resembles the sketch of Cooper then you need to get your eyes checked. My wife works for an eye doctor and I had my eyes examined a month ago.
 

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« Reply #254 on: December 31, 2017, 08:59:15 PM »
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If you don't think that McCoy resembles the sketch of Cooper then you need to get your eyes checked. My wife works for an eye doctor and I had my eyes examined a month ago.

resembling the sketch is one thing..are you going to claim the makeup theory again? Bing Crosby resembles the sketch, so?

what I see is the hair being the same....

NEWSFLASH....lots of people can "resemble" the sketch....

If he was wearing makeup would he still look like the McCoy.or the sketch.. I'm a little confused? the crew said no, so I take it he wasn't wearing makeup and they just couldn't tell it was Cooper?
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